As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap::As Windows 10 end of life approaches, analysts are concerned that millions of devices will be scrapped due to incompatibility

  • GreenBottles@lemmy.worldEnglish
    435·
    1 year ago

    Windows 10 should not require such a short life time. 11 isnt much different other than the security\TPM chip shit. And 11 is fucking terrible UX

    • Josh@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      23·
      1 year ago

      I like that it’s completely arbitrary and you can force windows 11 to install on unsupported hardware.

      • CmdrShepard42@lemm.eeEnglish
        14·
        1 year ago

        In one sense, I’m glad they put this stupid barrier up so that I don’t have to keep deleting the forced upgrade as part of regular Windows Updates like I did with Win10, but on the other hand it’s bullshit that they’re creating so much waste for no other reason than personal profit for their company.

      • ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        You just need to set a couple of registry bypasses and you can upgrade any Computer to Windows 11. Downside is that some security features won’t work, but its not a big deal for consumers.

    • biscuitswalrus@aussie.zoneEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Not to boast MS, but its service life is longer than Linux at 10 years. Lts on Linux is generally at best 8. Ltsc on Windows is much longer. Windows 10 released on 2015 and the ltsc ends at 2027 on the enterprise channel, or 2025 for the consumer general availability.

      I’m only commenting because I dislike misinformation more than I dislike MS.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      46·
      1 year ago

      TPM 2.0 will be over 10 years old at that point, I’m pretty sure most of the hardware they’re talking about will have been retired by then no matter the support for Windows 10.

      • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        It might be 10 years old, but it’s not widely deployed until a few years ago, just like how Wayland is 15 years old but only recently starting to see widespread use.

      • darth_helmet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I built a $1500 pc 6 years ago that doesn’t have a tpm. One gpu upgrade and this thing still does everything I want it for, including running modern games and VR with entirely acceptable performance. When windows 10 stops getting security updates, I’m just going to install arch on it.

        • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It was on everything Intel starting in October 2017 (8th gen) and a year later it started on AMD’s consumer grade hardware with full integration in 2019 (3000 series)…

          So 11 years after it started existing W10 stops receiving free updates, 10 years after the tech was fully integrated W10 stops receiving free and paid updates… And that’s not taking into consideration that W11 can still be installed on unsupported hardware…

          • darth_helmet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            I must have missed the cutoff by a couple of months. But here’s the thing: that cpu is still more than enough to drive 60fps on all the games I play, which includes typically demanding categories like fps, while running discord and YouTube and recording software. So the fact that Microsoft decided to fuck me over feels bad. TPM is garbage design from the hardware up, but I know to run secure workloads in secure places already.

            The right thing to do should have been to force oem-licensed win11 to have TPM, and allowed retail versions to install with a pop up about security features which won’t be supported without it. Fuck Microsoft for not doing this obvious, simple thing.