The premier of Newfoundland and Labrador says he found it 'incredibly concerning' to hear senior staff from U.S. President Donald Trump’s office convey that the commander-in-chief is 'very serious' when he talks about annexing Canada.
I think it’s unlikely that Canada would formally resist and hold the border for long…
The border will fall very quickly, and that’s just expected given the 10:1 outnumbering and the amazing weaponry. Our best play is to let that fall quickly and fight a resistance, should it come to that. It’s gonna be horrific.
I wonder if there’s a plan to evacuate the Canadian leadership to some where in the far north. It probably wouldn’t make any difference because of US air superiority. But, taking the 90% of the population that lives within a few hundred km of the border is pretty different from taking the entire country all the way to the pole. It could be that setting up a functional government in Grise Fiord would force the US to actually try to hold more than just the south.
A smarter move would be to be a government in exile from England or something. The monarchy is a bit of a joke these days, but I think an invasion of a country where King Charles is officially still the monarch would force him to do something. If he didn’t, he’d lose what little remains of his power. I don’t know if he could rally the commonwealth to fight a real war against the US, but sanctions and so on would probably be possible.
As for what would happen on the ground if Canada were actually occupied. Imagine the “Troubles” from when there was a dispute over Northern Ireland. Add to that that Canadians and Canadian accents are essentially indistinguishable from American accents. Then add that there’s no way that Canadians could be kept out of the US, because of the longest land border in the world. Next, consider that slightly less than half the US are Trump supporters, and Canadian “terrorists” would have many friends in the US. Also, look at how incredibly easy it is to get weapons in the US. Finally, think about how the US has had almost no war on its own soil since the civil war.
The US is used to sending soldiers to kill and die overseas. But, look at the destruction of Gaza, and compare that to Sept 11th. Two buildings fell and a few thousand people died and the US absolutely freaked out. Just imagine how unprepared the US would be for an actual guerrilla resistance on its own soil.
If you are really preparing for something like that, I suggest you think sabotage instead of actual fighting.
Because, first, you might want to google casualty numbers for guerilla campaigns, they won’t look nice for guerillas, and second, times change and certain countries either already have or can quickly achieve capability to just track everything resembling a human over all the territory of Canada, from space.
Of course it’s amazing that people are seriously discussing USA invading Canada. It’s no different from the Mexican wall.
The border can’t fall because even in WWI it wasn’t something intended to be held. I’m saying “even in WWI” and struggling to remember any war in history where someone would try to hold the border. Even in antiquity wars involved too much agility and maneuver for this to make any sense.
That’s the biggest problem. You need either Canada’s consent (which he can’t get) or to win a war with Canada plus the rest of NATO.
The second problem: it would make way more sense to become 10 or 13 US states. With respect to both area and population. That would be a big disadvantage to his party in congress.
You’re dreaming if you think NATO minus the US would fight the US if the US invaded Canada. There would be some excuse made, or some technicality found.
As for becoming states, what’s much more likely is that the US would make Canada a territory like American Samoa: no electoral college votes, no senators, no congressional representatives, not even US citizenship.
The US government coup in broad daylight. Plus whatever the fuck else he’s doing that’s not making it into the news cycle because of other shit taking up the time.
That would be a big disadvantage to his party in congress.
Would it though?
Most of the western provinces are very conservative. They’ll just gerrymander everything to give the more liberal sections one or two states and then another 12 states worth of senators and reps that are purely Nazi.
Does he not understand that it will require a full-scale war for that to happen?
Not just a full war but constant costs for occupation with a populace with easy and common access to drones, guns, and explosives.
I think it’s unlikely that Canada would formally resist and hold the border for long… but Canadians are really fucking pissed about this bullshit.
The border will fall very quickly, and that’s just expected given the 10:1 outnumbering and the amazing weaponry. Our best play is to let that fall quickly and fight a resistance, should it come to that. It’s gonna be horrific.
Ref: Vietnam
Also assuming the US military would go along with it.
Trump is replacing the top people with fascist loyalists. It’s likely the military would cooperate.
Replacing the top people with incompetents.
Would the soldiers though? Also They cant even meet recruitment numbers
I wonder if there’s a plan to evacuate the Canadian leadership to some where in the far north. It probably wouldn’t make any difference because of US air superiority. But, taking the 90% of the population that lives within a few hundred km of the border is pretty different from taking the entire country all the way to the pole. It could be that setting up a functional government in Grise Fiord would force the US to actually try to hold more than just the south.
A smarter move would be to be a government in exile from England or something. The monarchy is a bit of a joke these days, but I think an invasion of a country where King Charles is officially still the monarch would force him to do something. If he didn’t, he’d lose what little remains of his power. I don’t know if he could rally the commonwealth to fight a real war against the US, but sanctions and so on would probably be possible.
As for what would happen on the ground if Canada were actually occupied. Imagine the “Troubles” from when there was a dispute over Northern Ireland. Add to that that Canadians and Canadian accents are essentially indistinguishable from American accents. Then add that there’s no way that Canadians could be kept out of the US, because of the longest land border in the world. Next, consider that slightly less than half the US are Trump supporters, and Canadian “terrorists” would have many friends in the US. Also, look at how incredibly easy it is to get weapons in the US. Finally, think about how the US has had almost no war on its own soil since the civil war.
The US is used to sending soldiers to kill and die overseas. But, look at the destruction of Gaza, and compare that to Sept 11th. Two buildings fell and a few thousand people died and the US absolutely freaked out. Just imagine how unprepared the US would be for an actual guerrilla resistance on its own soil.
If you are really preparing for something like that, I suggest you think sabotage instead of actual fighting.
Because, first, you might want to google casualty numbers for guerilla campaigns, they won’t look nice for guerillas, and second, times change and certain countries either already have or can quickly achieve capability to just track everything resembling a human over all the territory of Canada, from space.
Of course it’s amazing that people are seriously discussing USA invading Canada. It’s no different from the Mexican wall.
The border can’t fall because even in WWI it wasn’t something intended to be held. I’m saying “even in WWI” and struggling to remember any war in history where someone would try to hold the border. Even in antiquity wars involved too much agility and maneuver for this to make any sense.
People would be making Molotovs in their kitchens immediately.
I’m drinking them now. I love the burn.
You would also have partisans in the US that would help Canada.
As well they should be. I’m furious about it even though I know it’s absolute bullshit.
If he wants to rename bodies of water to distract people from the real purpose of his occupation of the White House, fine-
But threatening a country just to smoke-and-mirrors his drifting of America? Fucking disgusting.
And the US military is absolute garbage at fighting guerillas
The US declared war on drugs and drugs won
That’s the biggest problem. You need either Canada’s consent (which he can’t get) or to win a war with Canada plus the rest of NATO.
The second problem: it would make way more sense to become 10 or 13 US states. With respect to both area and population. That would be a big disadvantage to his party in congress.
You’re dreaming if you think NATO minus the US would fight the US if the US invaded Canada. There would be some excuse made, or some technicality found.
As for becoming states, what’s much more likely is that the US would make Canada a territory like American Samoa: no electoral college votes, no senators, no congressional representatives, not even US citizenship.
This is why it’s very evident that it’s a distraction from the grift.
Can you elaborate? I assume you mean there’s a grift at play. What is it?
The US government coup in broad daylight. Plus whatever the fuck else he’s doing that’s not making it into the news cycle because of other shit taking up the time.
Everything
Typo. Meant to say distraction. Fixed it.
Would it though?
Most of the western provinces are very conservative. They’ll just gerrymander everything to give the more liberal sections one or two states and then another 12 states worth of senators and reps that are purely Nazi.
Also, hes a dictator so the way people vote is irrelevant.
Hellberta and Saskabush are it for right wingnuts. Manitoba went NDP last election and BC is also NDP (in name anyway).
No
I think he imagines that starting needless conflicts makes him look tough, not like the clueless moron he is.
First of all he’s not going to be a casualty, or so he thinks