You’ve hit the nail on the head perfectly but I’d also say they’re a great time killer. I play games on my pc and switch but to me the best way I can put it is that when I don’t have those an idle game is good just because I don’t play it often and I do have to play it to progress (then hit a wall) so it’s something I don’t REALLY have to sink time in to feel like I’m moving along
I kinda went off on a rant so I’m sure some portion of my original point made it in there
The person you are replying to is not being judgemental.
No judgement was mentioned.
They just described a gameplay loop, didn’t say it was good or bad or boring or easy or fun or difficult.
Even if they had, you can have a personal preference about something inconsequential and not use it to judge others.
I do not get the appeal of idle games, but I dont think that people who do are being judged in any kind of way by me for having different game preferences alone.
I do not usually prefer or enjoy playing basically turn based JRPGs in general because I usually just get really bored of the gameplay and find it repetitive and unchallenging, but the only judgement I could possibly make about such people from those who do, knowing only that they like JRPGs is that they like grand and epic stories, and they are probably more interested in a graphically engaging story and hey maybe they like the gameplay or maybe that’s not even what’s important to them, they really just like a semi interactive well told narrative.
Some people want a game that doesn’t require the kinds of gameplay I prefer, and that doesn’t mean anything other than they prefer a different kind of gameplay, or they’re in the mood to experience the next saga of a narrative they love, or both!
I do not think they are bad or weird for this, just different in a way that is probably unimportant and neutral on a personal level.
Well that doesnt make any sense, because if it was not a reply specific to the commenter, then it must be you commenting on this topic or the comments generally.
Clearly something triggered you to post what you posted, a criticism of people who judge others based on the games they like.
Given that the post you were replying to does not do that, either you posted a reply to the wrong comment or topic, or you feel judged when that is not explicitly stated, which would basically mean you are judging yourself?
Cookie clicker is a famous example, I think. Passively a number goes up, and you’re able to increase the rate at which it goes up by buying upgrades and whatnot.
It never really appealed to me either, though maybe some people just enjoy seeing a really high score
The one I personally know of most people who play is Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms.
Its the natural evolution of a kind of JRPG gameplay. The actual combat is so boring you might as well just automate grinding. So they did!
I don’t even get why you have this be a game at this point. Why not just make a visual novel or like a YouTube series? Again, I just do not understand the appeal.
Some people like the building aspect, progression being more important than grinding. If you can do the progression (picking skills, making production buildings/machines, things like that) without actively grinding, it takes out a lot of the negative aspects of gameplay for some people.
Typically there’s a personality in those videos. I see what you’re saying, and given the continued existence of “time-savers” MTCs, I’d say you’re right even if it’s not quite the same.
oh look AI is now gonna play the game for you too
There are so many people that play idle games.
Never understood the appeal.
Number go up , dopamine go up
You’ve hit the nail on the head perfectly but I’d also say they’re a great time killer. I play games on my pc and switch but to me the best way I can put it is that when I don’t have those an idle game is good just because I don’t play it often and I do have to play it to progress (then hit a wall) so it’s something I don’t REALLY have to sink time in to feel like I’m moving along
I kinda went off on a rant so I’m sure some portion of my original point made it in there
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Cookie Clicker is a popular example.
Cookie clicker has a sort of similar gameplay loop to Factorio for me, expand production, make more cookies, ascend for research, repeat
People always find what others do weird. “Who wants to grind in a game” “who wants to drive in circles all day” “who wants to farm in a game”.
You do weird things too, everyone does, stop judging others like you’re somehow better than them.
Not you specifically here, you as in talking to anyone.
The person you are replying to is not being judgemental.
No judgement was mentioned.
They just described a gameplay loop, didn’t say it was good or bad or boring or easy or fun or difficult.
Even if they had, you can have a personal preference about something inconsequential and not use it to judge others.
I do not get the appeal of idle games, but I dont think that people who do are being judged in any kind of way by me for having different game preferences alone.
I do not usually prefer or enjoy playing basically turn based JRPGs in general because I usually just get really bored of the gameplay and find it repetitive and unchallenging, but the only judgement I could possibly make about such people from those who do, knowing only that they like JRPGs is that they like grand and epic stories, and they are probably more interested in a graphically engaging story and hey maybe they like the gameplay or maybe that’s not even what’s important to them, they really just like a semi interactive well told narrative.
Some people want a game that doesn’t require the kinds of gameplay I prefer, and that doesn’t mean anything other than they prefer a different kind of gameplay, or they’re in the mood to experience the next saga of a narrative they love, or both!
I do not think they are bad or weird for this, just different in a way that is probably unimportant and neutral on a personal level.
I specified it wasn’t directed at the person I responded to, thanks.
Just make it a comment then, replies are for replies.
Well that doesnt make any sense, because if it was not a reply specific to the commenter, then it must be you commenting on this topic or the comments generally.
Clearly something triggered you to post what you posted, a criticism of people who judge others based on the games they like.
Given that the post you were replying to does not do that, either you posted a reply to the wrong comment or topic, or you feel judged when that is not explicitly stated, which would basically mean you are judging yourself?
My favorite of these is Universal Paperclips
Cookie clicker is a famous example, I think. Passively a number goes up, and you’re able to increase the rate at which it goes up by buying upgrades and whatnot.
It never really appealed to me either, though maybe some people just enjoy seeing a really high score
The one I personally know of most people who play is Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms.
Its the natural evolution of a kind of JRPG gameplay. The actual combat is so boring you might as well just automate grinding. So they did!
I don’t even get why you have this be a game at this point. Why not just make a visual novel or like a YouTube series? Again, I just do not understand the appeal.
Here are some others:
https://diamondlobby.com/platform/steam/best-idle-games-on-steam/
Some people like the building aspect, progression being more important than grinding. If you can do the progression (picking skills, making production buildings/machines, things like that) without actively grinding, it takes out a lot of the negative aspects of gameplay for some people.
Huh.
Well, whatever floats your boat I guess.
Or in this case builds your town?
People enjoy watching others play on twitch or even live sports.
Not much difference, let people enjoy what they want.
Typically there’s a personality in those videos. I see what you’re saying, and given the continued existence of “time-savers” MTCs, I’d say you’re right even if it’s not quite the same.