We have yet another example of the conservatives having only short term gain and quick profits on their mind. Turner and the liberals were right when they said that we have been building this country east to west for a century plus, and that we should have continued doing so. And now we are seeing Turner’s predictions coming true, and a conservative sold us the fuck out and took the easy way Instead of nation building.

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    How has the liberals programs like childcare, the first home savings account, the middle class tax cut, the raising of taxes on the wealthiest, the school foods program, the deals struck with multiple auto makers to build evs and their batteries here in Canada, investments into critical mineral extraction, enhancing trade tie with Europe and South East Asia, and the Trans mountain pipeline, LNG projects bad for the working class again? ThE cARbOn tAx?

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      • The childcare program is something the NDP has been pushing for since 2015. And without them at the table, the Liberals would never have prioritized this issue.
      • The FHSA doesn’t help much if people don’t earn enough money to put aside or can afford a home because they’re being priced out. I find this to be one of those “NOT outside the box” solutions that don’t bring anything of substance to the problem. It’s also greatly limited. It’s great for those who have money who want to save on income tax though. What we needed were stronger laws against foreign ownership, againt ownership of residential homes by companies and investors through REITs and ETFs and against AirBnB type services. And maybe limit the number of residential properties per person? Nearly 1/3rd of residential properties in Canada are owned by multiple property owners. Property barons basically. How did that even happen? What did the Liberals do against all of this during their 10 years in power? With what was happening in B.C. we saw what was going to happen and they did very little to stop if from spreading across Canada.
      • The deal for EVs and batteries in Canada isn’t a great deal. We’re just subsidizing corporations. (again) And for what? For vehicles that people aren’t adopting as fast as any analyst had expected. And the battery manufacturing? Look at NorthVolt in Québec and how much of a shit show that is. BILLIONS invested in a company that’s near bankruptcy because, again, people aren’t buying EVs as fast as expected. Also the value of the materials to make batteries dropped significantly and put the company in a tough financial spot. And on top of all that, China has made so many EV batteries already that the market is practically saturated. If ever we were to open the gates to China, Northvolt would disappear. The trade barriers with China are the only thing keeping that company alive.
      • Regarding the mineral extraction for EV batteries? See my previous point. Also we’re still subsidizing private companies to extract those minerals instead of nationalizing everything that’s in Canada’s soil. And what about the environmental impact of all this? Once again, we subsidize corporations while we pay for picking up the mess.
      • Speaking of environment, how are the trans mountain pipeline and LNG projects good for the working class when these projects are environmental hazards which the working class always end up paying for when an environmental mess happens? How is that good for fighting against global warming, which is a pressing issue? Why aren’t we working towards getting rid of our dependence of these things? Why do you think the LNG pipeline project was cut off by Québec? It was a huge environmental risk on our bodies or water, which are a much more important resource than natural gas.

      So yeah. Those are my arguments against what you mentioned.

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        Bruh you sound like you will never be fucking happy lol. You are arguing against the liberals for… Doing stuff the NDP agree with? Wtf is this? You sound like you basically just want the conservatives to win because I’m sorry but the NDP ain’t getting many seats this election and the closest thing to the NDP right now are the liberals. You want to whine and complain about shit that’s actually being DONE? Whine about what ifs and about how it’s not PERFECT? I’m sorry to burst your bubble baby but nothing is perfect. The enemy of good is perfect

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          What is your problem??? What the heck is wrong with you and that shitty attitude? You’re not convincing anyone by acting immature and throwing a tantrum at people online.

          And how did you even get to the conclusion that I want the conservatives to win?

          You are arguing against the liberals for… Doing stuff the NDP agree with?

          No. Read my comment again. What I said is that the things the Liberals did that you mentioned like the child care program are things the the NDP came up with first and have been pushing through for ages. The liberals being a minority government had to make a coalition with the NDP and therefore the NDP pushed for these things to be implemented. These were the compromises that the Liberals had to make to get their votes in return for other bills. That’s the beauty of a minority government.

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      Hey just FYI when you type in alternating lowercase & capitals it makes it impossible for blind or sight-impaired people using screenreaders to understand you