Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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  • Lightor@lemmy.world
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    And they can look at any small business, be it product, art, any book anyone writes, and they can flood the market, crushing you and profiting of the thing you made. Can people not see how this goes both ways and how this would destroy any desire for creation, knowing rich people will just take it and stomp you out immediately?

    Imagine you write the next Harry Potter book or some shit, you’re catching on and getting popular and now it’s gone. A different company is printing your book and you don’t get any money. They’re making movies off your book and you get nothing. You go to stores and see merch from your book that you wrote that you’ll never see a dime of. This is the world you want? Where the rich can easily just take anything with no defense from the creator?

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      Without IP the company would also get approximately 0 money for selling movies or books. This hypothetical doesn’t make sense.

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        What? They still sell things like merchandise and make money from it. You can make money selling Mickey Mouse hats if you don’t own the IP. I feel like you don’t understand the situation being presented.

        You write a book. I make a copy and sell that exact book because I doesn’t exist. I just made money off your book. It’s that easy.

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          Yeah but you can’t really profit off of that because anybody can print the book. And if there’s no IP, I can just download the book and print it myself. Or read it as a PDF. Or download the IP-free audiobook and listen to that. Even for printed books, competition drives the price to the production costs so very little profit is being made there.

          Otherwise big companies would be making big money off of shakespeare and the bible. But that’s not how they make their money, they make their money with IP monopolies instead.

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            9 hours ago

            You’re missing how commerce works. A big company can flood the market. They can use better materials and ship faster due to being entrenched.

            Like, hey, you could make an iPhone but will you? You can make a movie too, but will it be as good, you can make merch, but will it be as well designed and distributed?

            Even in your example, where anyone can make a copy of the book, what about the author? They could pour years and their heart and soul into a book just to make no money, is that ok?

            Big companies make money of Shakespeare and the Bible all the time. I don’t know why you would think they don’t, they very much do.

            You’re also mixing monopolies with IP. You can have a monopoly with or without IP.

            • nimpnin@sopuli.xyz
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              I write scientific articles for a living and i dont give a fuck about some corporation making money off of them. What I do care is whether people can access my articles in other ways too, that’s why they are on Arxiv and ill email them if somebody asks.

              If somebody wants to pay for a printed copy or an Elsevier typeset that doesnt concern me in the slightest. And I dont think it would any other author either if they had a decent income like i do from the uni