• Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Conservatives like Trump, absolutely. He says whatever is expedient for him in the room he’s in at the moment.

      But people like Mearsheimer, Sachs, The Duran, Syriana Analysis on Youtube, etc. I don’t think realistically think they will ever see power personally. They are ideologically motivated to question the war mongering of the west. The question is why. What changed. Because these same types of people were going nuts for western wars like Vietnam, extremely pro-war 50 years ago.

      Is it really just that America went “woke” and they hate it? Is it really that simple? So if America goes back to naked reaction and jim crow era apartheid then they’ll be back on board with Western hegemony and dominance? These people really just got fooled by the fake as shit mask of “progress” America dons as it decimates the world? The thing is, these types of conservatives tend to be the least virulently reactionary of the chud subtypes so I don’t buy that explanation fully either. I’m just confused at how they arrive at their worldview halfway being based. Maybe they really are just Russian-aligned and like Putin?

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        The going “woke” is just the ideologically superstructure to the base that is the productive mode of neoliberalism and the productive force that is the internet.

        Personally I dont really believe that jim crow will even return, their focus will be on making black men “the king in his own household”with socialism and DEI being portrayed as a sinister attempt to feminize and disrupt black familes, while promising them a silver medal compared to the gold medal the desirables get and therefore compatible with white supremacy.

        Spanish in the us will like fare the same fate german did, with most non-passing latinos being mass deported, like what already has happened thrice in american history. Asian Americans are really the only other racialized group that come close to white people in wealth, so its possible they become the target of genocide/dispossession, because in white racists mind asians outcompete white people, while other “races” simply get free shit because of brainwashed white libs or some bs.

        The end goal would be an mostly white state stretching from Greenland to the modern usa, that is leeching white migrants & STEM expats from europe, while also being able to recruit temporary cheap labour from climate destroyed future central american and the caribbean - A regional hegemony, unconquerable and autocratic. Thats what I think the some of these people are trying to plan. So it’s less being fooled, but more fearing a loss of status and their own economic interests. Maybe even thinking that America is going to crash too hard due to overextending.

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          I think you are definitely right, I was being quick in my speaking and not specific. The era of Jim Crow is over, they are better at smoothing that over these days with economic and cultural methods like you described.

          The conservatives definitely want to return to “spheres of influence” style geopolitics, where regional powers have more direct control over their immediate sphere but respect the spheres of other regional powers. This is why they may criticize war in Ukraine or Palestine while cheering on “dealing with the border issue” with Mexico and getting tens of thousands of troops to militarize the border. Both are acts of imperialist aggression that any honest anti-imperialist would oppose - but they oppose one yet support the other in a way that seems incoherent to us with more internationalist tendencies.

          Their change has only been in the size of the sphere. They used to think Eurasia was within their sphere of influence, but no longer believe that to be true. So they are backing off to respect Russia and China’s sphere.

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            Yes one of the fundamental laws of this universe is the drive towards stability. America is transforming back into a more stable (but also more obvious) form of imperialism.