Since we’re using El Salvador like it’s a new Gitmo. Like yes, it would still suck for the people from El Salvador.
But at least people from other countries would go back to their home country. Presumably to be treated far better than El Salvador.
Because then most of the people being deported right now would just be deported to the US, causing a paradox and unfolding reality.
Because they havent been paid to do so yet. They dont work for us.
it’s not a law that one country can make. it’s a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
We could easily, and should, implement a law saying that people must be deported back to their own country. It just means fewer people would be deported.
it’s not a law that one country can make. it’s a law that requires agreement between countries via international treaty
Still not getting it.
The US can create a law saying “you can only deport people to their home country”. And if the home country doesn’t allow that, don’t fucking deport them.
It’s basic empathy.
Otherwise, let’s just all deport them all to Antarctica. It would save a lot of money on logistics, if we’re willing to not give a fuck.
your wording here is more clear. that makes more sense. yes that sounds good
Whoosh
Because Congress doesn’t care about the well-being of those people. Why else would this nuance be inserted into the law?
Do you remember how prisoners were kept in Guantanamo Bay, even after they were no longer suspected of any wrongdoing, simply because there wasn’t a country that would both accept them and treat them in accordance with US law? Many of those prisoners ended up nowhere near where they came from.
Some countries refuse to accept deportees. Some countries are so likely to mistreat deportees that sending them to those countries is illegal. Some countries simply don’t exist anymore.
Were? There’s guys still there
The fucking thought that Americans feel superior enough to not allow another country to take them…in this case from their extra judicial torture black site.
The Uyghurs in Guantanamo didn’t want to go back to China.
The point being that the US would see fit to refuse to return someone to a particular country all the while torturing them in the same black site.
Congress recently passed a law that allows people to be deported without due process. They’re not trying to stop him…they’re actively helping him.
…what? I need a source for this, please. 😧
It’s called the “Laken Riley Act”, and it allows for the deportation of people who have simply been “charged” with a criminal offense. They don’t have to be tried or convicted…just officially accused.
Heres the list of the 12 dems that voted to pass it. I see Mark Kelly again. Slotkin, fetterman. A whose who of Dnc absolute douchbags who all need to be removed from the party. I hope Hogg gets them all tossed.
https://rollcall.com/2025/01/20/democrats-senate-laken-riley-act/
Why isn’t rape or assault in there >.> Not that I agree with this to begin with but still
Because then they’d have to deport most Republican lawmakers.
They protect their own.
Because they are sociopaths that have zero empathy for those they deport.
Republicans don’t care.
Laws don’t matter. The government is breaking laws left, right and centre.
I don’t know what the US congress is any more, but in other countries it’s because they really really want to expel someone and the deportee’s home country might say “no thanks, they’re your problem”.
In case of the US they’ll ask “Oh? You reject him? You and what army?”
You can’t really deny the US much, y’know.
Afganistan said no when the US wanted Bin Laden. Two and a half trillion dollars later the exact same people are back in charge and now they’re armed with modern American weapons instead of vintage Soviet ones. Everyone lost except the people who said no to the US.
BS. You think the US is going to invade over not accepting a deportee? The rest of the globe is not so scared of the US that they will just do whatever silly BS the US asks, especially now that we’ve been proven to be a bunch of impotent clowns.
I mean, ignoring the law is this administration’s whole thing, so it wouldn’t matter. Also, as we’ve seen in the UK as well as the US, many targetted individuals have never even been to “their own country”.
Because then they wouldn’t be able to deport actual US citizens who aren’t the right color. I mean, if they actually respected the rule of law and weren’t already breaking dozens of them.
Because congress is complicit
Because our laws only protect the wealthy, enforce racism, sexism and are getting worse and more genocidal in real time
Unfortunately for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, he is from El Salvador and in 2019, an immigration judge granted him withholding of removal status due to the danger he faced from gang violence if he returned to El Salvador.
Right. That is why the Administration position on this has some merit which the courts need to defer to. As an El Salvadoran who is back in his home country, the US cannot compel his release. All the US can do is ask nicely.
But, they haven’t even done that. Which is why the courts are so pissed. They know all this, and they know that all the administration has to do is prove they asked, in good faith. They won’t even go that far. They did that performative thing where the El Salvadoran President said “We won’t send him back since he’s a criminal”, but the courts in the US don’t consider him a criminal.
There is no better definition of “contempt of court” then what the US is doing right now.
I know you’re not defending the administration, but I wouldn’t consider the administration’s position to have any merit. They sent him to the prison and are paying for him to be imprisoned there. Giving them an inch of credibility on technicalities just means they’ll continue to do what they’re doing.
But that’s the Court’s job, to look at all the technicalities. The Administration sent him there “erroneously”, but since he is there now neither US courts nor the administration can compel his release. The Courts need to acknowledge that, while also acknowledging that the Administration likely did it this way on purpose, and the whole “administrative error” thing is a crock of shit. But they can’t come out and say that. And that gives Trump a wedge to split the whole thing apart.
Fascists are good at using the fact that their opponents need to uphold the law against them.
Fascists are good at using the fact that their opponents need to uphold the law against them.
Your comment is correct as much as I hate it. But to the quoted portion, their opponents don’t need to. They choose to. And it drives me insane that they think that we can operate within the system the fascists are actively ignoring to fix this. The “normal way” things are done is gone, it’s time to stand firm and take action.
Well, justice is supposed to be blind, isn’t it? It’s supposed to deal with everything in a neutral manner. The Court is not supposed to pick sides, and they must operate within the system, because their legitimacy comes from it.
Other institutions may have more flexibility…
I agree, but courts have been partisan for a while. See judge Cannon’s handling of Trumps documents case and the supreme Courts handling of his freaking insurrection.
I understand the way things are supposed to be. But it’s not the way they are. Courts are going to have to decide which side of history they are on.
