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    Aging sucks. I think with the tremendous computing resources presently wasted on vapid AI slop and endless fart videos, we could instead use it for anti-aging research.

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      anti-aging research.

      I mean, there’s plenty of anti aging research going on. It’s just that aging isn’t any one thing. At the genetic level, telomeres are getting shorter and mutations are accelerating. In cells, certain metabolic waste products accumulate, and the cells experience increased oxidative stress.

      At the tissue level, you see blood vessels stiffening up, accumulating calcium deposits in the vessel walls themselves, and arterial plague within the vessels. Conversely, bones lose strength and lose calcium, and muscles and joints and tendons and ligaments deteriorate in strength and range of motion. Skin loses elasticity. Plaques and other abnormalities form in the brain and throughout the nervous system. The endocrine system undergoes changes as the hormonal balance of people changes in late adulthood (most notably menopause in women).

      Each of these effects of aging is being investigated, researched, and potentially treated. Dermatologists can make old skin look younger, or at least slow down the rate of apparent aging. There are pills that give 60 year old men the boners of a 20 year old. Some hormone therapies reverse some of the age-related decline in particular hormone levels. Each treatment treats its own thing, reversing or stalling one tiny aspect of aging.

      And they’re continuing to work on it. There’s plenty of research being done, with lots and lots of funding behind it.

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      Let’s just say that even if you where immortal, there is still the issue of your “soul” aging. In other words, you know you are old, and you won’t enjoy playing Pokemon Platinum in the same way.

      Society will also increasingy isolate you in various ways.

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        Fear mongering nonsense. Did anyone feel that way when infant mortality went way down?

        You’ll have other people the same “old” as you to hang out with. Many people say they “feel 25” inside, well guess what, now we can make your body align with that.

        We already have “anti-aging” compared to how people aged, say, two hundred or two thousand years ago.

        Besides, “immortality” is an absolute, you can always choose to unalive yourself if you feel so strongly about Pokemon Platinum. No Greek-style tragedy of the “immortal” who can’t kill themselves.

        Seems to me there is a lot more in life that can be enjoyed with a few extra centuries.

        Or even better, a Logan’s Run style of extended youth for your “allotted” four score and ten, then poof! Carousel. No aging, no senescence, no frailty, sickness, disease, waning sense and shrinking brains, just extended 20-something for 60 years, then ZAAP!

        I’ll take that over the meandering aging nonsense of how I’m supposed to revel in my aging carcass.

        PS: There is no soul. Just complex patterns in a vat of neurons.

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          Ok. All that just to tell you I’m 29, and get asked occasionally what grade I’m in. I’d know. I can already see all the anti-aging interventions, but I feel like I missed out on something permanently. Like nothing can make up for that fact.

          And that is why I’m going to compensate by being a glorious warrior. I have nothing else left.

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            Knew a fellow who had a similar look. He’d go into the bars and hand the hottest woman there a $20 and ask her to buy the drinks because he was afraid of getting carded. Most of the time they enjoyed the idea of corrupting an innocent and paid for his drinks.

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            Must be a troll account tbh. The name is too on brand.

            Sorry, but nothing has been made more obsolete by AI than wasting people’s time.

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          Not saying I’d rather be dead (oftentimes I would), but there’s some things money, time, and success can’t fix. Like for example: if you fuck a goat, you are a goat fucker for life.

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          Depends. Will I still have my glasses, now that I have time to read all the books in the library?

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      Not gonna happen, humans don’t prioritize like that.

      They’ll make slop and scams in desperate attempts to justify taking their share of the produce from the mechanized fields.

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        I remember SETI@home and folding@home… SETI I think is a dead end, but understanding our genome and proteome and how constantly recycled ageless atoms somehow manage to encode “age” is something I really want to know.

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      If you have wrinkles at 40 you need to wear more sunscreen and drink more water.

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        If you have wrinkles at 40 you need to wear more sunscreen and drink more water.

        But also even if you don’t have wrinkles you should wear sunscreen and probably drink more water anyway.

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          I’m sorry, where did I say that people at 40 don’t have wrinkles?

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        What planet do you live on where you see 40 year olds without any wrinkles at all? Absolutely ridiculous comment. Why do people upvote trash replies like this?

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          I’m in my forties and have no wrinkles. I have a few friends who have wrinkles but most of them don’t. Maybe you should drink more water and wear more sunscreen.

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            Yeah, I am 43 and while I have some very fine lines on my forehead, and near my eyes, you can’t really see them unless you are like within 2 feet of me, or closer. And I have a long history with smoking and drug use. Also I am white, very white, not quite ginger ghost white, but not too far off. Genetics play a very strong role in this, and, at least from my perspective as someone who smoked for 28 years, and did hard drugs for 17, staying out of the sun. I have only really been doing anything close to a routine skin care regimen in like the last 5 years. I have also been homeless. So… yeah, not only do I believe you, I know people just like you. Hell, I probably would have much smoother skin, with no lines, if it wasn’t for how bad I treated myself.

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            That’s such BS dude. You’re telling me you have absolutely no wrinkles that weren’t there in your 20s or early 30s? Not a single one. That’s absolute bullshit I’m sorry. Unless you’re claiming to be some genetic oddity and are immortal, you are lying.

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              Eesh why the hostility? I don’t have wrinkles. I don’t care if you believe me or not. This is the internet.

              Treat your skin well, get good sleep, drink lots of water, don’t do drugs or smoke. You won’t have wrinkles at 40. Neglect any of those and the likelihood of having wrinkles increases. Sorry that you look like an old bag at 40 but maybe treat yourself better.

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                I’m coming off as hostile because I don’t like it when clearly false or misleading comments get upvoted. It’s upsetting.

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                  You don’t know everyone on the planet or where they live or how they’ve lived so to call someone a liar for a statement about their own body is asinine.

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              Are we all assuming everyone in this conversation is white? Because I know plenty of black and Asian friends who I don’t recall having wrinkles. Most of them have pretty solid moisturizing/lotion/sunscreen routines, though, so it’s hard to tell how much is cultural versus genetic.

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              I know you’re claiming it’s not possible but I’m 38, I’ve done mostly night shifts and stayed out of the sun, I moisturize religiously and have since I was a teen, and I don’t smoke and barely drink (ADHD meds don’t play nice with alcohol).

              I’m wrinkle-free.

              Now compare to my sister, a few years older than me, used to tan growing up by laying out and getting a sunburn, has smoked since we were teens. Insanely wrinkled. Big, deep wrinkles.

              This happens. I think the other person was being flippant and dismissive but… it happens!

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                Sorry, I refuse to believe that you do not have a single facial wrinkle that wasn’t there in your 20s or early 30s. I just don’t believe it. It’s impossible. Perhaps people are misunderstanding me and thinking I mean a shit ton of wrinkles that make you look like you’re 80? Because no, that’s not what I’m saying.

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                  Not even crow’s feet.

                  I do a facial once a week. I do microdermabrasion once a week. I can’t stress enough that I hate the sun. I’m sorry if that isn’t your experience, but it happens. I’d share a picture of my face, but I’m trying not to completely dox myself.

                  Eta: And lots of water. Gotta drink lots of water.

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              I just double-checked in the mirror, and I don’t have any wrinkles yet either.

              That’s what happens when you don’t go outside enough, I guess!

              (I am starting to get a few gray hairs, though, if it makes you feel any better.)

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                Impossible. Not physically possible. If you were to compare your face to a close up high res pic of your younger self, you wil 100% see changes and wrinkles. They may be small but they’re there. No way in absolute hell this isn’t true.

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    “When I am 40, I will have lost my will to live over 20 years prior. I simply wait to die every day. Occasionally I try to do things I think I might enjoy, only to be proven wrong.”

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    Use it or lose it people. I’m over 40 and I’m quite fit and healthy. Do lots of walking, running, rock climbing, golf, and enjoying nature.

    I’m in better health than my younger friends simply because I’m more active. See dudes in their 70’s climbing harder than me still and in great shape. You’ve just got to keep moving.

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      Hearing people younger than me talk about how their bodies are falling apart is surreal. I do basically the bare minimum in terms of nutrition, exercise a bit daily, and I feel basically the same as I did in my 20s. Maybe better even because I’m not underweight.

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      This but it just keeps on going.
      8? 15 = adult
      15? 25 = adult
      25? 35 = adult
      I have income, a job, a car, a place to live. I dont feel like an adult yet.

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        You become an adult when you hear someone telling their kids to behave or “that mister” will tell them off.

        You look around. There’s nobody else. You have become The Mister. The stranger based punishment of exasperated mothers everywhere. You are now an adult.

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        Same here, save a car. I am also waiting for that magical moment when “you will understand when you grow up”. Welp, how much more growing do I have to do to reach that magical understanding that some grown-ups are toxic morons untold mysteries of the universe

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        Heard an interview one. The man said that at 20 he could imagine being 40, and at 40 he could imagine being 80. He was 67 at the time…