Thanks, though just another point my previous comment was just deleted by admin cause communism likes to destroy all dissent when something doesn’t go their way.
More non-sequitors, I guess? You didn’t “dissent,” you just called me stupid. You didn’t even have productive criticism attached to your comment, it was a low-effort insult and thus broke the rules. Your other comments are still up.
Lemmy.world also defederated from Lemmygrad.ml, so there’s another layer of invisibility. No grad user is visible to .worlders, period, to my knowledge.
Communists and Socialists have faced struggles with color revolutions and counterrevolutions, and have met those struggles with force, yes. However, it’s worth engaging with what the counter revolutionaries wanted. Well, they succeeded in the 1990s with the dissolution of the USSR, and what happened next was a collapse in life expectancy and 7 million excess deaths. Dissent is allowed in Socialist countries, what isn’t allowed is the Bourgeoisie acting freely and inciting violence against the people.
Further, your comment was hardly “dissent,” it was you insulting me without engaging with the arguments. It’s toothless. It’s unfortunate that you don’t live up to your username, fascism and anticommunism are twins.
It’s unfortunate that you don’t live up to your username, fascism and anticommunism are twins.
Again you’re saying stupid shit, fascism and communism are not the only two political ideologies in existence democracy has been around for a long time and has been more successful than both communism and fascism.
Communism is democratic. Liberalism, which you are likely referring to, is tied to fascism. Fascism is liberalism when the conditions of society necessitate the bourgeoisie’s use of unrestrained violence to prevent changes to the status quo.
There are several Socialist countries run by Communist parties, generally all of them are democratic. They have different models of democracy from liberalism, ones that are usually far more comprehensive. You should do some more research and try to actually understand the concepts you are arguing about, every time you’re proven mistaken you ignore it and find a new talking point. It’s better to hold your tongue and read up more than it is to waste your own time talking about that which you don’t know nor understand.
You didn’t have logic. You said they were “freed from oppression,” by which I can only assume you mean the freedom to starve and die as wealth inequality skyrocketed and the former Socialist state was plundered. The majority of people who lived in the USSR want it back, and this is well-documented.
The riots surrounding Tian’anmen Square resulted in hundreds of deaths of protestors and PLA officers alike, it wasn’t a rampant slaughter but the suppression of a western-backed color revolution. The student leaders admitted to inciting violence in order to provoke a violent response, hopefully triggering more widespread revolt in their eyes, but fled the scene to other countries like the US before the PLA was sent in.
Thanks, though just another point my previous comment was just deleted by admin cause communism likes to destroy all dissent when something doesn’t go their way.
More non-sequitors, I guess? You didn’t “dissent,” you just called me stupid. You didn’t even have productive criticism attached to your comment, it was a low-effort insult and thus broke the rules. Your other comments are still up.
I thought about replying directly to that user, but they would be unable to see my replies given how I am banned from their instance.
Lemmy.world also defederated from Lemmygrad.ml, so there’s another layer of invisibility. No grad user is visible to .worlders, period, to my knowledge.
Are you gonna try to argue that communism doesn’t have a history of crushing dissent?
Communists and Socialists have faced struggles with color revolutions and counterrevolutions, and have met those struggles with force, yes. However, it’s worth engaging with what the counter revolutionaries wanted. Well, they succeeded in the 1990s with the dissolution of the USSR, and what happened next was a collapse in life expectancy and 7 million excess deaths. Dissent is allowed in Socialist countries, what isn’t allowed is the Bourgeoisie acting freely and inciting violence against the people.
Further, your comment was hardly “dissent,” it was you insulting me without engaging with the arguments. It’s toothless. It’s unfortunate that you don’t live up to your username, fascism and anticommunism are twins.
My “Fuck Fascism” T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the shirt.
Who woulda guessed the liberal anticommunist turned out to be toothless when it comes to opposing genuine fascism?
Again you’re saying stupid shit, fascism and communism are not the only two political ideologies in existence democracy has been around for a long time and has been more successful than both communism and fascism.
Communism is democratic. Liberalism, which you are likely referring to, is tied to fascism. Fascism is liberalism when the conditions of society necessitate the bourgeoisie’s use of unrestrained violence to prevent changes to the status quo.
To my knowledge there are five communist countries in existence and none are democratic.
There are several Socialist countries run by Communist parties, generally all of them are democratic. They have different models of democracy from liberalism, ones that are usually far more comprehensive. You should do some more research and try to actually understand the concepts you are arguing about, every time you’re proven mistaken you ignore it and find a new talking point. It’s better to hold your tongue and read up more than it is to waste your own time talking about that which you don’t know nor understand.
They broke free from a regime that regularly stuck innocent people in gulags and denied freedom of speech.
They did not “break free.” 7 million people died, life expectancy plumeted, social safety nets were destroyed, poverty skyrocketed, sex trafficking skyrocketed, and the large majority of people who lived in the Soviet Union prefer it over modern Capitalism.
Nostalgia vs logic is no argument
You didn’t have logic. You said they were “freed from oppression,” by which I can only assume you mean the freedom to starve and die as wealth inequality skyrocketed and the former Socialist state was plundered. The majority of people who lived in the USSR want it back, and this is well-documented.
Imagine wanting to be put in a gulag. Have fun with that.
They’ve met them with mass killings not just with “force” see Tiananmen square massacre for content.
The riots surrounding Tian’anmen Square resulted in hundreds of deaths of protestors and PLA officers alike, it wasn’t a rampant slaughter but the suppression of a western-backed color revolution. The student leaders admitted to inciting violence in order to provoke a violent response, hopefully triggering more widespread revolt in their eyes, but fled the scene to other countries like the US before the PLA was sent in.