• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    Geoengineering is absolutely real, and companies are already actively engaging in it.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/24/1066041/a-startup-says-its-begun-releasing-particles-into-the-atmosphere-in-an-effort-to-tweak-the-climate/amp/

    Don’t be so enthusiastic to shut down conspiracy theorists that you make an equally ignorant claim on the other side of the argument.

    I am alarmed at the number of confidently stupid comments in this thread. Obviously didn’t read the article, nor bother to look into the claims. Just ignorant and reflexive denial. I’m not saying I support banning geoengineering (though we do need it strictly regulated), but you all sound just as stupid as the conservative conspiracy theorists saying they’re doing this to turn people gay or some shit.

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      I really wish people would stop using the existence of geoengineering to offer credence to chemtrail conspiracies. The link you provided has nothing to do with the contrails that we see in the sky every day. You can get binoculars or a high zoom camera and see that the contrails originate just aft of the exhaust nozzles. The 850°C engine exhaust mixes with the freezing cold -50°C air and condenses. In a four engined plane you’ll see 4 trails, in a twinjet you’ll only see two

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        I really wish people would read the articles they’re commenting on. If you did, you’d know this isn’t talking about contrails. This is specifically about geoengineering.

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          It seems fairly obvious based on other articles talking about this that the legislation originates from chemtrail conspiracy theories and not actual geoengineering. I will quote some parts

          Louisiana Rep. Kimberly Landry Coates stood before her colleagues in the state’s Legislature she warned that the bill she was presenting might “seem strange” or even crazy.

          Coates described situations that are often noted in discussions of “chemtrails”

          As she urged lawmakers to ban the unsubstantiated practice, she told skeptics to “start looking up” at the sky.

          “I’m really worried about what is going on above us and what is happening, and we as Louisiana citizens did not give anyone the right to do this above us

          Such bills being crafted is indicative of how misinformation is moving beyond the online world and into public policy.

          Chemtrail believers often call chemtrails “geoengineering” as a means of giving their conspiracy theories some credibility. That’s not to say geoengineering isn’t real. I’m saying it’s a term that conspiracy theorists have appropriated to talk about chemtrails without actually mentioning the word chemtrails

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            Yes, they’re definitely playing on those conspiracies to drum up support for this. But regardless of what fears they’re playing in to for pushing the bill through, it doesn’t change the fact that the language in the bill is specific to geoengineering, which is absolutely a real thing and something already being done by companies with little to no oversight.

            You and the author are not in a position to criticize the republicans grasping onto conspiracy theories to get public opposition to geoengineering, as you’re playing on the same conspiracy from the opposition angle to dismiss the legislation as not affecting a real thing, which is also a lie.

            They are being dishonest to push the bill. You are being dishonest in your opposition of it. You both suck.

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      You can tell it’s working by the number of conservative closeted homosexuals who are trying to regulate genitals with federal force

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        See? Another confident moron who didn’t even read the article.

        At least eight states, including Florida and Tennessee, have now introduced chemtrail-coded legislation to prohibit “geo-engineering” or “weather modification”.

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        And? Banning it outright is ridiculous, but absolutely we shouldn’t be letting any company who feels so compelled to geoengineer without oversight.