I’m mainly interested in how clean it gets the dishes, and how reliable it is. I also don’t need or want any kind of internet-connected features.

  • jodawznev@sh.itjust.works
    211·
    1 day ago

    I got a Bosch last year, simple setup, no IoT bullshit, just works, quiet. For what it’s worth, the guy who installed it told me “I install new dishwashers and remove old ones in the process all the time. I’ve never had to remove a Bosch dishwasher”.

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
      16·
      1 day ago

      FWIW all Bosch dishwashers have IoT now, even the cheapest. You don’t need to use it, but at least it plays well with 3rd party stuff like Home Assistant.

      • 4am@lemm.ee
        5·
        23 hours ago

        Really, because I have a Bosch and I had to install the app and then use HACS to install an integration which goes through their cloud.

        I don’t use that for anything more than alerts but it’s annoying it has zero local control. This is a perfect use case for Zigbee or Z-Wave and if I’m paying a premium I don’t get why I wouldn’t get premium features.

        Also some features are app only (special dry modes etc) so if I want the functionality I paid for I have to be signed up for their cloud.

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        1 day ago

        let’s hope they won’t just hop on an open wifi and do whatever, but hoping is the most we can do.

        never had such a device, if it works with Hass (offline) that’s kind of good, but I wonder if they are hackable before connecting them to a network, because they run a hotspot or something