• Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 day ago

    I mostly agree however you are showing some serious racism when you say they “stole” anything. Do typu really believe the people that invented gun powder cannot innovate?

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          18 hours ago

          Except it is since Chinese companies take US tech and flood the market with cheaper shittier versions. If you are a startup avoid China like the plague. Even Intel had a bunch of there stuff stolen.

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            17 hours ago

            If their versions were actually shittier we wouldn’t be losing as badly as we are, you’re verifiably wrong and it comes off as racist

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              13 hours ago

              A US based company may foolishly get a contract with a Chinese manufacturer to make a specific part or product based on a spec. Said manufacturer then takes the designs and starts making them as their own. They often reduce cost by making the product with less material so that it lasts a shorter amount of time. In the tech landscape Chinese manufacturers have been known to steal software for devices without any attribution to the source. It ruins startups and harms the economy and the environment. Not all Chinese companies do this but some due without any reproductions.

              It isn’t “racist” as this has nothing to do with race. The core problem is the government of China not enforcing international copyright law. I don’t disagree that copyright can and has been abused in many places. However, it is still needed. Even copyleft depends on copyright.

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                13 hours ago

                Cool story, can’t help noticing it’s entirely unsubstantiated though. Again, if Chinese manifacturing quality was actually that much lower consistently than American manifacturing we wouldn’t be losing.

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            14 hours ago

            Except it is since Chinese companies take US tech and flood the market with cheaper shittier versions.

            Fixed it for you. The west barely even makes industrial products. At best western companies assembles parts ordered from China, or designs them but has them produced in china (obviously the factory manufacturing your designs will find out what the design is!)

            On top of that, in many cases, western companies in china are literally signing explicit technology transfer contracts to work in china.

            Even when the Chinese steal western designs (a fear that is completely overblown and mostly just corporate propaganda against market competitors), that is actually a good thing because IP is a plague upon humanity.

            Even Intel had a bunch of there stuff stolen.

            That’s good news.