• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Would that be worth taking away his autonomy and will without consent?

    Wow congratulations, first real argument in any response I’ve received until now.
    But they are not really taking away his autonomy by closing the monastery, they are only putting an end to a harmful practice that is illegal.
    Now the part about harmful may be a matter of opinion. But personally I believe religious practices are mostly harmful.

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      How is that not taking away autonomy? That’s kind of literally the definition of. They aren’t appealing for them to close the monastery on their own. They are forcing it.

      You and I can both state plainly that the practices are harmful. And even justify the assertion. We would never subject ourselves to it by choice. But that’s the thing it has to be a choice. Give them other choices other opportunities. That is absolutely fine.

      But the moment you enact your beliefs upon others through violence. It doesn’t matter if you are factually correct. You are no longer the “good guy”. You’ve lost the argument. If you cannot make the case for it on merits alone.

      There is a very good reason concepts of imperialism and colonization are frowned upon these days. Why you don’t see many groups talking about going out and civilizing savages. These are the so-called “good intentions” that the proverbial road to Hell is paved with. The same sort of justification that they used to separate my grandmother from her family. And sent her to special schools. The kind that in many places often ended up with mass Graves of children.