Starting in Firefox 138, Mozilla started gating Firefox Labs features behind data collection.
Mozilla had announced that some new Firefox features would be released via Firefox Labs.
It is now a few hours since I posted, and there is reason to celebrate – Mozilla is updating Firefox Labs to let people access features without needing to enable data collection.
Mozilla seems to not be able to do anything good. No matter what decision they take, it will be perceived as a bad one by some vocal segment of the community.
Welp, there goes their consumer trust
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t?
Damned if they do, cuz they did. Feel free to trust their pinky swear “we promise not to try to fuck you over again”
incidentally gatekeeping new features being A/B tested is hardly fucking anyone over. Let’s save the rage for things that matter.
Advertising yourself as a good option for privacy then taking your data is fucking you over. And it was only two days ago that they tried forcing it, and they’re already lowering the middle finger and apologising.
Let’s try to not mislead people here by pointing to some a/b testing thing that has nothing to do with policy changes and enforcement
Let’s try to not mislead people here by pointing to some a/b testing thing that has nothing to do with policy changes and enforcement
The Nimbus migration is literally why it was kept behind telemetry for a couple days, that’s not a red-herring. You’re attributing malice to neglect - which is now fixed.
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-terms-of-use/
It is, just check their blog a bit back
It’s not a couple of days, it is in place today. We need to wait until new code is developed to enable Labs for people who have telemetry or studies disabled.
What? Why is that?
Cuz they violated the trust of the community and their presented values of being open and private. They didn’t go back on this because they’re good people
no, it’s quite reasonable actually:
Nimbus was originally designed to be an A/B test platform and so it made sense at the time that if telemetry was disabled that Nimbus should be disabled because there if you need to collect data in order to do quantitative experimentation. However, as Nimbus has grown into more of a feature delivery platform, it no longer makes sense to gate everything behind having telemetry or even studies enabled.
You missed the part that this data collection requirement was a new development. Your quote is misleading
Still using it, still enjoying it, not so flimsy and bothurt as many users are…
