According to officers of the Israeli military’s Southern Command, the shelling was aimed at maintaining order at food distribution sites, but the army has since shifted to “other methods.”
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According to officers of the Israeli military’s Southern Command, the shelling was aimed at maintaining order at food distribution sites, but the army has since shifted to “other methods.”
Archive article: https://archive.ph/R0IP4
Death, Death to the IDF!
EDIT: To better express my point - I’m East European who with boiling blood hate levels against Russia. I have never said “Death to russians”. I do say “Support Ukraine”. See the difference? Honestly, would not surprise me if half of lemmy does not.
Your extremism approach to the problem aside - note that IDF is mandatory to everyone who reaches 18 with some exceptions, which means the same people who report Israeli atrocities to the media and never wanted to be part of this, is now in your call for death.
Since IDF is mandatory to nearly every Israeli citizen, that also means you’re essentially calling for genocide while saying genocide is bad. Do you feel morally conflicted, or are you like the people you hate?
EDIT2: Ehh lemmy… allahu akbar, death to america and give me upvotes, is this how we talk now?
He said death to the idf not death to israelis. So your example is trash. I am sure you are ok with russians soldiers dying in ukraine
“Death to Russians” is not an equivalent phrase to wishing death to the military and you know that. And don’t start on the mandatory service shit. Every citezen has the option of 1. Taking some jail time 2. Converting to Ultraorthadox Judaism or 3. Leaving Israel. There’s no excuse to join the baby killer Brigade we call the IDF.
I honestly don’t know the short for Russian army, everyone just says Russians here. I still meant the same thing as army is now mandatory in Russia.
Plenty of people did abandon their lives and families and moved to a country they can’t even speak in, but it’s not an easy choice by any means.
IDF is an institute, you can wish its demise without it being understood as death to all conscripted Israelis. Putting aside that as a settler-colonial project founded on ethnic cleansing, no one in Israel is innocent, only varying degrees of culpability. Even more so when they have been constantly voting for extremist and genocidal politicians, and the one prime minister that was willing to make peace with the Palestinians got assassinated.
Would you morally object to “Death to the Hitler Youth”? how about “Death to Nazis”?
How do you feel about churches being bombed and Christians being killed by the IDF?
Similarly, this doesn’t imply death to all residents of the USA some of which are Muslims.
Not sure why you’re asking me that. I’m not from a christian country and I generally don’t have a favourable opinion towards religions in general.
All in all, your comments and knowledge seems to be full of holes.
For example:
No, Netanyahu did not win the popular vote like Trump in US, he only got something like 20%.
Do you truly, honestly believe that people shooting starving kids in bread lines are morally conflicted about the genocide they are committing? Nobody is forcing them to shoot at bread lines. They choose to do it.
I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about generalization. Not all black people are thieves, you know? Plenty of people from IDF have spoken up and plenty of jewish people have been protesting against everything that’s happening. My point was simply that calling for mass execution of a group of people makes you morally questionable too.
You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.
Black people are born black and cannot change that. Jews are born that way and cannot change it. Nobody is born in the IDF.
What? You literally make no sense, because my point was about genocide. You calling for genocide against a group doing the genocide when said group is also full of people who were forced into IDF and constantly help the media and world see what’s truly going on does not make you the morally highest creature.
Americans don’t scream “Death to police”, they scream “Defund the police”. Your choice of words would make you a fine addition to ranking officers of IDF, you get my point?
Do you think it’s too extreme to say ‘death to nazis’?
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean nazi germany, then yes, killing entire nation because of corrupt leadership is bad, okay? Are we clear on that? The WW2 result was better than what some of you would have done to the Germans. Don’t become the person you hate.
You can answer your own question but by changing roles - Can people yell “Kill Palestinians” because of corrupt Hamas leadership? Do you see how stupid that question is?
EDIT: Are you guys acting stupid on purpose?
But they aren’t saying death to Israelis when saying death to the IDF. You have to understand the difference between wishing for genocide upon a group of people and wishing for the end of an institution that does nothing but harm and bad.
It’s also worth noting that the only right thing to do for a member of the IDF is to fight the IDF.
They are morally obligated to tear down the infrastructure of genocide that they are a part of. The only good IDF soldier is the one who is working in earnest to oppose the IDF. All of the rest of them are cowardly garbage human beings who should probably go to the Hague.
A tremendous number of them probably should be hung until death and then buried at sea with no ceremony. People who do what they do should have even their memories killed.
Why are you defending baby killers
Why are you missing basic comprehension skills?
You can go to prison for the duration of the service instead of participating in genocide. Anyone who doesn’t do that is actively choosing to commit genocide.
It’s genuinely not that easy and ruins your future chances of having a good life. Just the fact alone that the jail time is looped as long as you refuse to serve IDF, ending your jail time with another draft is… dark.
Getting shot in a breadline also ruins your future chances at a good life. Being bombed in your hospital bed ruins your future chances of having a good life. Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?
I don’t understand why you keep asking me that question and I keep having to answer yes for you to stop going offtopic
Because you keep begging for sympathy towards those who choose to commit genocide. You are pretending like there is some moral quandary here where none exists.
Begging for sympathy? More like making sure you and this website does not get flagged as an extremist place with no moderation, seeing the same fate as multiple chans and freedom boards. Me wanting others to stop acting like extremists does not equal me defending IDF. You being a piece of shit towards the group whose opinion you want to change ruins your own chances of swaying said people’s opinions.
Military does not drop flyers saying “death to you”, they drop flyers saying “stop serving the army and we will help you”.
Still not getting my point? Damn I’m too European for this platform
Most Europeans don’t sympathize with genociders.
I take it to mean “disband” the IDF
if the extreme right can be loose with the meaning of words, so can we