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anachrohack@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 23 hours ago

TIL The ancient Romans created an artificial sweetener called "Sugar of Lead" by corroding lead in vinegar. It has a mildly sweet taste and also causes brain damage

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TIL The ancient Romans created an artificial sweetener called "Sugar of Lead" by corroding lead in vinegar. It has a mildly sweet taste and also causes brain damage

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anachrohack@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 23 hours ago
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  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    It has a mildly sweet taste and also causes brain damage

    Well… but so does Jack Daniel’s. Interestingly, the Romans were aware of the dangers of lead poisoning, including that it could cause madness - which they called “plumbism” (plumbum being the Latin word for lead). Kind of like we know about the dangers of alcohol, flavored sugar water, and many other things we consume wantonly. Like us, they apparently just didn’t GAF.

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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    Not having zero, they couldn’t have computers and thus social media, so they had to improvise

    • Illecors@lemmy.cafe
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      Thanks for a good chuckle!

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    Hahaha, what a bunch of morons, sugar isn’t even good for you!

    [sips sugar-free microplastic energy-slurry]

    Buncha dummies.

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      Artificial sugar still causes an insulin response. Better stick with the vinegared lead.

      • Photuris@lemmy.ml
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        I wear a CGM (not diabetic, just a weird nerd).

        I can assert that artificial sweeteners do not, in fact, affect insulin at all (at least for this n=1). After a Coke Zero, Diet Coke, or Ghost Energy, my blood sugar remains unaffected for hours (if no other calories are introduced).

        Corn, however, in any form, fucks my shit up, blood glucose-wise. Way more than any other starch. No idea why.

        • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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          As a T1 diabetic, artificial sweeteners don’t affect my blood sugar either. Caffeine does, though, unfortunately.

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          Per this article, artificial sweeteners can create an insulin response in the body and can ultimately lead to some degree of insulin resistance. Though, they do state that more studies need to be performed.

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7014832/

        • underscores@lemmy.zip
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          Are you eating sugar free corn ?

          • Photuris@lemmy.ml
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            Huh? No, corn definitely has sugar in it.

            What I mean is, a portion of corn or corn products causes a WAY HIGHER glucose spike with me, than does an equivalently sized portion (by weight or volume) of white rice, beans, milk, or even chocolate cake cake. I don’t know why.

            • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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              I believe they were making a joke about sugar free corn

              • Photuris@lemmy.ml
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                Oh I’m an idiot. Good night!

                • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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                  Lmao. We all do it eventually!

                • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  Maybe ease off the sugared lead a bit…

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    Lead in wine as a sweetener is believed to be why Beethoven was deaf

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    With the US asbestos comeback, are we getting Sweet Lead now too?

    • ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.world
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      Isn’t that those little rolls of crunchy, colorful candies? SweetTards? (Sorry.)

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      The what now?

    • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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      Its been in use for a long while over there.

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    Yeah, well we pumped it straight into the air for everyone to breathe in. We painted schools and nurseries with it as well.

    • kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world
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      We still pump it into the air via small aircraft!

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      Ah, the good old days. Before those evil woke leftists ruined everything!

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    Hmm Wall candy.

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    They had a lot of names for it.

    “salt of Saturn”

    And a lot if uses.

    How much would cause brain damage, and how much brain damage did the average Roman have?

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      One thing that’s overlooked about the Romans and lead exposure is that they did have organic forms of oral chelation available, which helped mitigate the effects. The most commonly quoted version of which is eating garlic, but many foods and nutrients can either decrease the amount of lead you absorb from the other foods that you eat, or increase the amount of lead that you excrete, which decreases their effects on your body and brain.

      Of course, these foods by themselves are not going to completely remove all of the lead in your blood, but it would have reduced the amount, so it’s not like they were completely raw-dogging lead in their wine.

      https://lead.org.au/fs/Foods_for_Lead_Detox_A-Z_20150214.pdf

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        Man, as if I needed any more reasons to eat even more garlic.

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      How much brain damage would a brain damaged Roman have if a brain damaged Roman could have brain damage?

      • ThePiedPooper@discuss.online
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        Not as much brain damage as any MAGAt.

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        dollar fifty

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          It was about that time I realised this wasn’t no Roman legionnaire, it was the goddamn Lernaean Hydra.

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    Republicans have a 2k year old 𝔖𝔴𝔢𝔢𝔱 𝔄𝔫𝔡 𝔖𝔩𝔬𝔴 tradition

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    Didn’t they also had lead pipes and lead cutely and coups?

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      <>

      • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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        Don’t back-and-forth me

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          Not a fan of shoowd and JRY, eh.

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