Tylenol is a brand name. It is not a drug. You can’t “take Tylenol.” They have, roughly, 50 different products.
I would say these people are idiots, but I had my doctor tell me to “take Benadryl” and it was that same shit: BENADRYL IS A BRAND NAME. LIKE NIKE. OR PEPSI. DO YOU MEAN DIPHENHYDRAMINE? LORATADINE? CERTIZINE?
I hear you, but to be perfectly honest, this comment is not accurate. It is not at all like saying Nike. While Nike is the company that makes the shoes, Tylenol is not the company that makes name-branded acetaminophen. Benadryl is not the name of a company. The company name is Johnson and Johnson, or it used to be before some sort of bullshit “corporate reorganizing” or something.
Anyway, Tylenol and Benadryl are names for the drugs, they’re just the names the corporation that had a stranglehold on their sale (aka “patent”) chose to give them and not let anyone else use. It sucks that capitalists get to make these decisions, but tylenol and benadryl really are valid names for those drugs as sold by the company that patented them. Their generic names, acetaminophen/paracetamol and diphenhydramine can be used by any manufacturer that makes them, so the medical community tends to use those because it works in all cases. All benadryl is diphenhydramine but not all diphenhydramine is benadryl. Still, there is nothing inaccurate about a doctor writing a prescription for benadryl (well, other than the fact it’s over-the-counter and no prescription is needed, but you know what I mean).
Loratadine and certazine are completely different drugs, they are different compounds and do not refer to the compund that is the drug benadryl aka diphenhydramine. Loratadine and certazine are the generic names for the brand named drugs claratin and zyrtec, respectively
Ambien is the name of a drug whose generic name is Zolpidem. Xanax is the name of a drug whose generic name is alprazolam. These aren’t misnomers.
that’s not true. they’re brand names. they have ~50 different products. Benadryl, admittedly, has way more products than Tylenol. regardless, it’s not all ace and not all diphen.
is it really that big of an ask for a doctor to prescribe medication and not a corporate brand name? especially when it comes to one’s health?
It is though. I’m sorry, but you’re wrong. For a product to be sold as Tylenol, the main active ingredient legally must be acetaminophen. Tylenol products can contain other ingredients, but acetaminophen must be the primary active component to be labeled and marketed as tylenol. This is true of benadryl always having to have as the main ingredient diphenhydramine.
is it really that big of an ask for a doctor to prescribe medication and not a corporate brand name?
In a better world, we wouldn’t have corporate brand names at all. But a doctor using such a name (in the world we live) is not misusing the name.
For a product to be sold as Tylenol, the main active ingredient legally must be acetaminophen. Tylenol products can contain other ingredients, but acetaminophen must be the primary active component to be labeled and marketed as tylenol. This is true of benadryl always having to have as the main ingredient diphenhydramine.
this is not true. idk exactly what you mean by “labeled and marketed as tylenol” but just using those terms generally - it’s not true.
or conversely, if it is true - then there’s a lot of Tylenol and Benadryl that’s violating the law at all my local stores.
I don’t know what to tell you because it very much is true. What are the stores near you selling that they are calling Tylenol but that does not have acetaminophen as the primary ingredient? If you go buy a drug from them that is labeled Tylenol and it does not have acetaminophen as the main ingredient, then you could probably make a lot of money suing whoever it was in the distribution chain that changed and mislabeled a drug.
I’ve had different doctors refer to drugs by brand and generic names. Those that use generic names tend to also emphasize to buy generic due to price point.
if your doctor tells you to take benadryl then they obviously mean diphenhydramine. if your doctor tells you to take tylenol, they obviously mean acetaminophen.
are you not from the US and then moved here or something? I agree it’s a weird facet of our culture that we refer to drugs with corpo brand names but it isn’t nearly as confusing as you’re making it out to be rn, tho.
people in the US historically are dumb and uneducated. the doctors got into a habit of just telling people “go take some tylenol” bc it’s what you’d see in the store. the box says tylenol in big letters, not acetaminophen… it’s for that simple reason, really.
the big pharma companies here know this cultural practice though and their packages are designed accordingly, for the most part. you’re virtually never going to see a drug that’s not acetaminophen packaged in a container with the tylenol brand strewn across it.
generally disagree with a lot of the assertions you wrote, but also irrelevant. ultimately when it comes to my (or anyone’s) health i want precision and specificity i don’t want corporate names/logos from a lazy idiot doctor.
i haven’t much really asserted anything here it was more just an objective take on how american english and our pharamaceutical culture work. i concur it’s obtuse in many respects but that is how it works here, it wasn’t really an agree/disagree thing… unless you are trying to say american english doesn’t work like this and everyone doesn’t get along knowing what each other means just fine. i don’t think that’s the case bc you start talking about values after, which like. idk what to say man, i agree it’d be better if everyone was more precise in their communication. communication sciences are really complicated and that isn’t really a simple problem to solve in the abstract like that, tho.
i don’t think doctors are idiots moreso they’re profit-motivated and exist in a system that is inherently hostile to the patient. imo that’s worse than being an idiot bc i’m of the opinion that pretty much every doctor and nurse involved in the american healthcare system is breaking their hippocratic oath by working in the exploitive system they do, in part explicitly bc of shit like this, but that’s another deal entirely.
Tylenol is a brand name. It is not a drug. You can’t “take Tylenol.” They have, roughly, 50 different products.
I would say these people are idiots, but I had my doctor tell me to “take Benadryl” and it was that same shit: BENADRYL IS A BRAND NAME. LIKE NIKE. OR PEPSI. DO YOU MEAN DIPHENHYDRAMINE? LORATADINE? CERTIZINE?
I hear you, but to be perfectly honest, this comment is not accurate. It is not at all like saying Nike. While Nike is the company that makes the shoes, Tylenol is not the company that makes name-branded acetaminophen. Benadryl is not the name of a company. The company name is Johnson and Johnson, or it used to be before some sort of bullshit “corporate reorganizing” or something.
Anyway, Tylenol and Benadryl are names for the drugs, they’re just the names the corporation that had a stranglehold on their sale (aka “patent”) chose to give them and not let anyone else use. It sucks that capitalists get to make these decisions, but tylenol and benadryl really are valid names for those drugs as sold by the company that patented them. Their generic names, acetaminophen/paracetamol and diphenhydramine can be used by any manufacturer that makes them, so the medical community tends to use those because it works in all cases. All benadryl is diphenhydramine but not all diphenhydramine is benadryl. Still, there is nothing inaccurate about a doctor writing a prescription for benadryl (well, other than the fact it’s over-the-counter and no prescription is needed, but you know what I mean).
Loratadine and certazine are completely different drugs, they are different compounds and do not refer to the compund that is the drug benadryl aka diphenhydramine. Loratadine and certazine are the generic names for the brand named drugs claratin and zyrtec, respectively
Ambien is the name of a drug whose generic name is Zolpidem. Xanax is the name of a drug whose generic name is alprazolam. These aren’t misnomers.
that’s not true. they’re brand names. they have ~50 different products. Benadryl, admittedly, has way more products than Tylenol. regardless, it’s not all ace and not all diphen.
is it really that big of an ask for a doctor to prescribe medication and not a corporate brand name? especially when it comes to one’s health?
It is though. I’m sorry, but you’re wrong. For a product to be sold as Tylenol, the main active ingredient legally must be acetaminophen. Tylenol products can contain other ingredients, but acetaminophen must be the primary active component to be labeled and marketed as tylenol. This is true of benadryl always having to have as the main ingredient diphenhydramine.
In a better world, we wouldn’t have corporate brand names at all. But a doctor using such a name (in the world we live) is not misusing the name.
this is not true. idk exactly what you mean by “labeled and marketed as tylenol” but just using those terms generally - it’s not true.
or conversely, if it is true - then there’s a lot of Tylenol and Benadryl that’s violating the law at all my local stores.
I don’t know what to tell you because it very much is true. What are the stores near you selling that they are calling Tylenol but that does not have acetaminophen as the primary ingredient? If you go buy a drug from them that is labeled Tylenol and it does not have acetaminophen as the main ingredient, then you could probably make a lot of money suing whoever it was in the distribution chain that changed and mislabeled a drug.
I’ve had different doctors refer to drugs by brand and generic names. Those that use generic names tend to also emphasize to buy generic due to price point.
if your doctor tells you to take benadryl then they obviously mean diphenhydramine. if your doctor tells you to take tylenol, they obviously mean acetaminophen.
are you not from the US and then moved here or something? I agree it’s a weird facet of our culture that we refer to drugs with corpo brand names but it isn’t nearly as confusing as you’re making it out to be rn, tho.
people in the US historically are dumb and uneducated. the doctors got into a habit of just telling people “go take some tylenol” bc it’s what you’d see in the store. the box says tylenol in big letters, not acetaminophen… it’s for that simple reason, really.
the big pharma companies here know this cultural practice though and their packages are designed accordingly, for the most part. you’re virtually never going to see a drug that’s not acetaminophen packaged in a container with the tylenol brand strewn across it.
generally disagree with a lot of the assertions you wrote, but also irrelevant. ultimately when it comes to my (or anyone’s) health i want precision and specificity i don’t want corporate names/logos from a lazy idiot doctor.
i haven’t much really asserted anything here it was more just an objective take on how american english and our pharamaceutical culture work. i concur it’s obtuse in many respects but that is how it works here, it wasn’t really an agree/disagree thing… unless you are trying to say american english doesn’t work like this and everyone doesn’t get along knowing what each other means just fine. i don’t think that’s the case bc you start talking about values after, which like. idk what to say man, i agree it’d be better if everyone was more precise in their communication. communication sciences are really complicated and that isn’t really a simple problem to solve in the abstract like that, tho.
i don’t think doctors are idiots moreso they’re profit-motivated and exist in a system that is inherently hostile to the patient. imo that’s worse than being an idiot bc i’m of the opinion that pretty much every doctor and nurse involved in the american healthcare system is breaking their hippocratic oath by working in the exploitive system they do, in part explicitly bc of shit like this, but that’s another deal entirely.