• hemmes@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Yeah, there’s no breaking encryption. Been saying this since the first stupid go around.

    All you can do is legally require that folks use encryption that someone else also has the keys to. If someone decides they’re not down with that, they’ll use their own keys (illegally if it’s against the law).

    Encryption is math. They’re deciding on whether or not to legally allow use of certain math equations.

    Edit: typo

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      Is there even a way to proof that certain data is encrypted? If I sent you a mail with…

      HATSKNRJDHDJSKISNSJKNRURJDHJDKD

      …it could be an illegally encrypted text, but also just random gibberish. How would you ever enforce such a law?

      And with the use of stenography you could also make secret messages less obvious.

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        …it could be an illegally encrypted text, but also just random gibberish. How would you ever enforce such a law?

        I case of Germany the police would knock on your door at 6 am with a search warrant and confiscate all your electronics to search for encryption software or other incriminating evidence. And even if you were innocent they will keep the devices locked up for years before giving them back, not paying you any compensation for it.

        Just calling a politician “pimmel” on Twitter is enough for that treatment in Germany.

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          12 days ago

          Yeah, valid point.

          Further more, continuing with your theory, authorities would have something up their sleeve to get a bogus search warrant under the guise that something they intercepted or acquired one way or another, like an email which may even contain regular conversational text - doesn’t even have to be gibberish. They could claim it’s actually encrypted text and seize data and equipment.

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        12 days ago

        Well encrypted text should not be distinguishable from random noise. Your example has repeating patterns, so it’s a Caesar cipher at best.

        Stenography is a type of quick writing used mostly in courts or by reporters, you’re thinking of steganography.

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          12 days ago

          In my case, it’s just random letters (I promise!) that I typed manually on the keyboard.

          Regarding steganography you’re of course correct.

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    12 days ago

    Ive always wondered how it is ever planned to enforce it, is a police team going to bust down my door:

    PUT THE UNBACKDOORED LIBSSL DOWN!

    Sure companies like meta will comply instantly but everyone that doesn’t use big tech (including criminals) can just continue doing whatever? Why would criminals the one the law claims to stop use backdoored clients?