I’m curious about the rage. Comedians get money to go to a place where they can speak free for an hour without any risk of even accidentally saying something terrible about their host because they don’t know them at all. Seems more a sad testament to America being officially dead. Dave Chappelle still is human trash to be clear, though. Also not being pro-middle-east-comedians, just…thought experiment of sorts.
I don’t think most of them have any specifically anti Saudi Arabian jokes, though. The type of money they’re throwing around would certainly make me consider.
Even the bit about it being easier to talk there is kinda true if you’re anti Trump or critical of Kirk. Super hypocritical, but still…
This is Saudi Arabia we’re talking about. If you think that’s a place where you can “speak free”, you’re an idiot or a fascist (probably both). These people are comparing people calling them an asshole on Twitter to a regime that literally murders people that say things they don’t like (RIP Jamal Khashoggi).
Fuck, every one of these comedians literally got a list of things they couldn’t talk about in their big money contracts. One of them got fired before the show because he mentioned Saudi Arabia’s slavery on a podcast (in the context of, they’re paying him enough to ignore it).
I’ll say it again; if it’s so free there, let’s see one of these comedians drop a bonesaw joke.
The dominant worldview, as reinforced by American culture, is that everything (even our values) can be measured in dollars. All we can do is withhold our financial support from these performers.
I don’t think we should be suprised that America produces people without moral conviction. This is the nation that made Saudi Arabia wealthy by helping it develop its oil reserves followed by oil purchases from the kingdom for decades.
Promise I’m not trying to be one of those “but there are alternative opinions” trolls here. Speech isn’t free there, but they can freely talk about things they can no longer talk about in America without being abducted under cover of night and sent to a concentration camp and then randomly dumped in an arbitrary African nation without any paper trail, was the point. Probably a small bit of, “work and money are increasingly hard to find for many, why judge,” was also a factor.
In the grand universe of rage, it seems a waste of time to direct it at easily-ignorable comedians when there’s active Nazi evil to hate and pursue. If anything, ignoring the comedians would literally be their end instead of giving them any attention or clicks.
I suppose people wouldn’t know to do that without the aforementioned rage-attention though, and best to hate-silence all the evil we can everywhere.
Thanks for humoring me, I think the thought experiment was a dumb one, overall, and there’s enough rage to go around for all the Evil things.
Yeah, the Saudi Arabian government don’t really care if you talk shit about Americans. It’s when you talk shit about them that the saws come out.
Which just goes to show what these “free speech champions” and “brave truth tellers” are really about. They don’t actually care about speaking truth to power, just airing their own grievances.
For whatever it is worth, I never saw Saudi Arabia or most middle east nations as bastions of freedom. Selective oppression might be a better term (for the entire damn world anymore.)
He made his entire career stereotyping black people. Should have seen that one coming. I mean who was his audience even? Mostly white rednecks?
That guy would literally be a perfect clown for the confederates or something. He hates his own race and it’s very obvious. Republicans in general tend to be very self hating. If they are black they hate black people, if they are gay, they hate gay people, if they are atheists, they hate atheists, of they are religious they hate religious people. If they are rich they hate Rick people. If they are poor they hate poor people. If they are men they hate men. If they are women they hate women.
The good thing is that they completely lack any wisdom or intelligence and it takes them 1000x the effort to do anything as a simple progressive person could do. They would have no power if they didn’t have trillions of dollars of propaganda and bot farms supporting them. They would never get anything done without spending a billion dollars to do it. That’s why all the Republican states are dirt poor and have really high crime rates and full of people who can’t even think through even simple thought experiments.
I’m curious about the rage. Comedians get money to go to a place where they can speak free for an hour without any risk of even accidentally saying something terrible about their host because they don’t know them at all. Seems more a sad testament to America being officially dead. Dave Chappelle still is human trash to be clear, though. Also not being pro-middle-east-comedians, just…thought experiment of sorts.
Well they couldn’t do that, they could only say stuff that wouldn’t upset Saudi Arabia.
I don’t think most of them have any specifically anti Saudi Arabian jokes, though. The type of money they’re throwing around would certainly make me consider.
Even the bit about it being easier to talk there is kinda true if you’re anti Trump or critical of Kirk. Super hypocritical, but still…
Fair point.
This is Saudi Arabia we’re talking about. If you think that’s a place where you can “speak free”, you’re an idiot or a fascist (probably both). These people are comparing people calling them an asshole on Twitter to a regime that literally murders people that say things they don’t like (RIP Jamal Khashoggi).
Fuck, every one of these comedians literally got a list of things they couldn’t talk about in their big money contracts. One of them got fired before the show because he mentioned Saudi Arabia’s slavery on a podcast (in the context of, they’re paying him enough to ignore it).
I’ll say it again; if it’s so free there, let’s see one of these comedians drop a bonesaw joke.
especially a country that has a hate/love relationship with the US.
The dominant worldview, as reinforced by American culture, is that everything (even our values) can be measured in dollars. All we can do is withhold our financial support from these performers.
I don’t think we should be suprised that America produces people without moral conviction. This is the nation that made Saudi Arabia wealthy by helping it develop its oil reserves followed by oil purchases from the kingdom for decades.
Promise I’m not trying to be one of those “but there are alternative opinions” trolls here. Speech isn’t free there, but they can freely talk about things they can no longer talk about in America without being abducted under cover of night and sent to a concentration camp and then randomly dumped in an arbitrary African nation without any paper trail, was the point. Probably a small bit of, “work and money are increasingly hard to find for many, why judge,” was also a factor.
In the grand universe of rage, it seems a waste of time to direct it at easily-ignorable comedians when there’s active Nazi evil to hate and pursue. If anything, ignoring the comedians would literally be their end instead of giving them any attention or clicks.
I suppose people wouldn’t know to do that without the aforementioned rage-attention though, and best to hate-silence all the evil we can everywhere.
Thanks for humoring me, I think the thought experiment was a dumb one, overall, and there’s enough rage to go around for all the Evil things.
Yeah, the Saudi Arabian government don’t really care if you talk shit about Americans. It’s when you talk shit about them that the saws come out.
Which just goes to show what these “free speech champions” and “brave truth tellers” are really about. They don’t actually care about speaking truth to power, just airing their own grievances.
For whatever it is worth, I never saw Saudi Arabia or most middle east nations as bastions of freedom. Selective oppression might be a better term (for the entire damn world anymore.)
He made his entire career stereotyping black people. Should have seen that one coming. I mean who was his audience even? Mostly white rednecks?
That guy would literally be a perfect clown for the confederates or something. He hates his own race and it’s very obvious. Republicans in general tend to be very self hating. If they are black they hate black people, if they are gay, they hate gay people, if they are atheists, they hate atheists, of they are religious they hate religious people. If they are rich they hate Rick people. If they are poor they hate poor people. If they are men they hate men. If they are women they hate women.
The good thing is that they completely lack any wisdom or intelligence and it takes them 1000x the effort to do anything as a simple progressive person could do. They would have no power if they didn’t have trillions of dollars of propaganda and bot farms supporting them. They would never get anything done without spending a billion dollars to do it. That’s why all the Republican states are dirt poor and have really high crime rates and full of people who can’t even think through even simple thought experiments.