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Saving $35 per month
I get trying to save some money, and I understand wanting to reduce a carbon footprint but this just seems like performative jerking off to me.
Want to save 35 bucks a month? Turn your water heater down 5 degrees. Take ten minute showers. Turn off lights when you aren’t in a room. Put appliances not often used on power strips to allow you to kill the appliances that go to sleep instead of off when you actually turn it off. Turn the thermostat up five degrees and owe the curtains. Use a fan- during summer it moves cool air. During winter it helps move heated air and reduces cool/hot spots. It can even help the ac system work more efficiently reducing electricity costs.
Heat pumps …
What kind? Water heaters? They suck ass. And they rival the cost of a tankless install and require a HVAC tech and a plumber to repair them sometimes. I install them. Ground capture requires digging up a yard and installing hundreds of feet of loops of pipe in order to work.
None of it touches on the fact that you have to own the home to do that stuff.
Okay wait this is so relevant to me personally right now. My water heater tank just sprang a leak after 18 years and I am looking to replace it. It is an energy kinetics system 2000. I have no idea what the price of a replacement should be (just the tank) and am being given different prices for different tanks. Since the original lasted so long I am leaning towards the same brand but individual consumers cannot purchase them directly, and I’m getting pushback from the only quote to offer an installation of that tank on the breakdown of the price. Can you give me any advice? It would be super appreciated
Those are boilers. Do you live in a colder climate? Im in an extremely hot environment so we don’t really see much residential boiler usage. Just commercial really. Those are good boilers, by a reputable brand.
If you are looking for a replacement on the storage tank, look for a smaller plumbing shop. Less overhead, better chance of being a decent price. Big shops usually charge more because they have a big building, lots of employees, lots of trucks to maintain, etc. Smaller shop might be more willing to replace a tank versus suggesting replacement of the whole unit.
Whatever route you go, get three quotes if time allows. I’d go with the middle one, unless the lowest can justifywhy it is lower than the rest. Typically w plumbing cheap doesn’t equal good. Also, what goes wrt pricing here likely won’t be the same where you are. I’ve seen prices vary wildly by thousands of dollars just based on geography.
Yeah that makes sense. I’ve gotten two quotes so far one around 2.2k and another 3.5k which is a pretty wide difference. They are definitely only replacing the tank and yes a colder climate but we have all four seasons in good quantities. I’m gonna wait for another quote or two but it’s been tough since some places don’t install those tanks because the manufacturer has stricter requirements when it comes to certification (which is a good thing I guess; 18 years for a tank feels like a pretty good lifecycle). I appreciate your insights though and will live with my cold water for now!
It’s a good thing, really. It’s likely a combination of having a tech who is familiar with the product they are installing plus some amount of covering their ass. A boiler with a inbuilt storage tank is a potential explosion. Whatever volume of water you have expands by something like 1,000 times when converted to steam. Pressurized container allows water to increase in temp past 212/100, vessel ruptures and that 5,10,20 gallon boiler tank can potentially expand near instantly to 1,000 times it’s volume. It is potentially deadly and very destructive.
There are flow switches to make sure water isn’t dwellingin the heat exchanger too long, pressure switches that will kill the unit before a pressure gets beyond it’s design parameters. Thermostats to watch tank temps. Those safeties are regulated by government bodies wherever you reside, and they always err on the side of caution.
It’s a real pain in the ass for the user/owner because you have to jump through hoops to do what you are doing, the cost can be prohibitive, and end of day the companies reputation is built on the guys doing the install and the techs attitudes can vary wildly within the same shop.
