• PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world
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    I’m a strong supporter of Americans learning Greco Roman wrestling or Sombo. It will take you far in life when people want to get hands on.

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      There’s a significant percentage of preppers who want doomsday to come, because they think they will get to be a leader & have an “I told you so” moment, instead of the community seizing the spoils of their preparation.

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      We all gotta start punching more fascists.

      (I can’t fight and I’m weak shit, so can someone throw in an extra hit on my behalf please? I’ll get you a milkshake as thanks.)

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    Let’s be honest, if there is a global apocalypse and the only people left are the billionaires in their bunkers, how long are they really going to hang around doing their own laundry, eating canned food, and watching reruns?

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    These people figure everyone else will do the hard stuff, and one day they’ll all come to their senses after rebuilding and realize they need a beans and guns guy. It’s a kind of narcissistic laziness.

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      Nah…the people who fill their bunker with beans and guns are the same people who will use their guns to take from those who build gardens and communities.

      In other words, they want all of the benefits of a community without putting in anything in return.

      Or to put it even more simply: conservatives.

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        9 hours ago

        Risky game when the community garden people know which parts of the plants are toxic or not. Come try this “sloe berry” jam I made…

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        I’ve played an enormous amount of post apocalyptic simulations and video games, so I’ve got some insight on how this typically goes:

        The bunkers with beans and guns are rare, but usually whoever is inside died of something really common, like an infection, broken leg or a stroke, and was unable to get medical aid in time.

        There’s also loot boxes/caches in the woods where you see someone tried to be completely solo and typically “having weapons” is way less valuable than knowing how to use them

        The OG meme is right, you need other people in “the apocalypse”, going it alone is a death sentence, even basic things can become enormously difficult (many hands make for light work)

        Make sure at least one of the people you know is a doctor, surgeon, or nurse of some kind

        And if the “guns-people” ever band together (band-its) and try to take stuff away, they typically don’t have coordinated field tactics or military discipline, it’s a slog but battling the cannibals with a regular army does eventually result in their extinction

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          Turrets run out of ammo eventually they also need a vent for air. Would be real bad if they got blocked.

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            Plus without supporting infantry you can just roll up behind a very thick steel plate, doesn’t matter that it’s slow as you can take as long as you like

  • Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Porque no los dos?

    Community engagement is vital, and we should all be involved with outreach, education, and mutual aid.

    I think we all understand that we’re on our own now, and if we want our communities to survive and thrive we need to take ownership and contribute.

    But it’s naive as fuck to pretend we won’t be on our own protecting those communities as well. Arm up, train up.

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    Hey, you’re just preparing for a different doomsday. How do you know they’re not preparing for an animal uprising, where all the bears, elk, and wolves team up to eliminate their human overlords? In that scenario, preparing hunting material makes tons of sense.

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    • The moment I start learning the names of my neighbors I get: “What are you a cop? Scram!” or just get shot at the front porch. The moment I ask them their trade I get arrested by cops they called for “being too nosy.”
    • “That’s my stuff! Don’t touch it! Stop trespassing my property!”
    • “Do you have a license for this garden?”
    • Polyester Paradise
    • Self defense requires Gun praxis, and bean storage food aid.

    Once those mentalities above are fixed, there‘s is no doomsday preparation that will take place.

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    Yes, that stuff is very important Mom, now me and the boys gotta push back some traveling renegades that want to pillage our stores and goods. With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns, we will win. Store arms is essential dooms day prepping

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      With our gun. And because we have so many really good guns

      Literally all our violence problems in the USA stem from this kind of massive insecurity and self-reaffirmation. The guns are a product of this kind of feeling of isolationism and fear, not a cause.

      How do you know if someone is a conservative white american? They will start babbling about firearms almost instantly when you talk about the possibility of destabilization.

      How do you know if someone is one of the many millions of liberal or leftist firearm owners? You won’t. They don’t feel need to whip it out and stroke it in front of strangers. The Finnish are laughing at you.

      The post here is both right and wrong. You do need guns to survive in a post-collapse situation, but vast, vast majority of gun-toting americans would either not survive or become the worst kinds of raiders and bandits themselves because they don’t create community or sustainable systems in that community to keep people alive, and tend to ignore the importance of countless other facets of actual survival.

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      After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources. Long term survival does not revolve around stock piling unsustainable weapons or once-off use food supplies.

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        After a few years the guns will be useless and without resources

        Lol I own guns that are older than your grandpa. I also reload my own ammo. None of this stuff has a shelf life.

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          Oh, that’s really cool. So how do you get the minerals for the explosives and the raw metal for the bullets?

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            By robbing other people’s bunkers obviously /s.

            The point isn’t to sustainably be able to make ammunition for the next 10 generations. It’s to be able to hunt and protect my farm from predators and bandits. If shit ever really hits the fan having a bunker full of beans isn’t going to save you. But knowing how to live off the land and having the means to do so may very well be the difference between life and starving to death. If all of the sudden tomorrow the supermarket did not have food what would you do? Try to go to TikTok and find survival lifehacks? Me personally I would go out to my chicken coop and gather some eggs. Then make my way to the garden to pick some vegetables (if it’s winter, I should have canned vegetables). After that I would probably go milk my goats (I don’t have goats yet, hopefully next year though lol.) finally I would probably make a loop around the area to check on my neighbors and see if they need anything, maybe trade them some eggs, while also looking for game to hunt.

            Not everyone who does this type of shit is some whiny bunker baby who’s waiting to live out their mad max fantasy. I’m not a doomsday prepper, I’m a homesteader.

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              So you’re very much not the stockpiling only guns and beans type of person, so why are you feeling so called out?