• comrade_twisty@feddit.org
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    8 天前

    Which is why celebrating the US stock market gains this year is completely idiotic, most of the companies gained less than 10% even if they broke records - so they are all worth less than before Trump took office.

    It’s all a huge scam.

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      8 天前

      ETF’s that track any of the major indexes are mostly flat when you take the devaluation of the dollar into account. SPY is probably up marginally but just barely. But money sitting in a bank account has lost value in that time frame. A better idea would probably be to invest in stocks and ETF’s denominated in Euros or another currency.

      Edit: Also as a result on the devaluation of the dollar, gold is way way up this year

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      8 天前

      most of the companies gained less than 10%

      But the MAG7 were doing 20-40%, and they’re making up nearly half of the S&P 500’s gross value.

      It’s all a huge scam.

      It’s a huge something. I can’t even tell who is being scammed by whom anymore, though.

      Just like with the big '08 crash, everyone’s eating hamburgers they promised to pay one another back for on Tuesday. We’re all waiting to see whose checks start bouncing first.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        8 天前

        Just like with the big '08 crash

        When AI bubble implodes, it will be 4X the 08 crash and this time there will be no bailouts.

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          I’d say the fundamental difference between Housing and AI is that we don’t live in the AI. The fallout will be very different for that reason alone.

          And as to “no bailouts”? Bush let Lehman go bankrupt and it set off a panic that resulted in the US Treasury outright owning half the investment banking sector by the end of the year. There’s always an appetite for bailouts when shit actually impacts the fan.

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      8 天前

      Does it matter? NASDAQ Index says it gained about 19% YTD, so even with inflation, this is a plus of 9%.

      And yes, I know that the gains could potentially be much higher without idiotic politicians.