Oh good, another reason to install Linux on my next reinstall
It might be a stupid reason, I always used a local account even when connecting a Microsoft account later, since I absolutely hate how Windows names the user folder for MS accounts…
If it’s a PC, just grab another drive and install Linux now. Swear to god, you’ll naturally and very quickly just not boot to Windows again. It’s like…
Day 1: Install Ubuntu. Drive around, do stuff, learn.
Day 3: Install a different distro like Mint or whatever. Drive it around.
Day 5: Install the one you ended up liking most. All these installs take like 10 mins top btw, so go nuts.
Day 10: You havent used Windows except maybe for your work’s 365 stuff. All you games, programs, etc. are on Linux now.
Day 14: Wipe the drive Windows is on and reinstall it on a shrunk partition. Only install your stuff for work or just leave it default.
And that’s it. Yourself free, but it’s still there if ever have to use it for something. You’ll groan when you do though. And if you do WFH with work 365 stuff, the best part of the day is logging off and booting back into Linux. It’s like the relief of coming home from work but you’ve been home all day.
I already have a laptop that has Arch running for a Year and I haven’t regretted that a bit.
Im just to lazy to make some space for Linux on my desktop that’s already dying and just waiting until I have replaced the Motherboard and CPU.
Especially since I will need to Dualboot for some programs and Windows really likes to kill my bootloader unless it has its own drive with its own EFI partition
I have a windows VM to run some specific tools I need for work. Well, multiple, I have one particular tool that still is useful for certain projects that needs Windows 7 for example.
Not technically running on my desktop though. Ive got a proxmox host for it that I remote into from whatever to do what I need to.
Nice of you to skip over the whole current Nvidia driver mess regarding Linux like it’s that simple
Or the non streamlined GUI sessions and installs that are still a WIP rife with incompatibility and constantly verging on obsolete so you’re spending more and more of your time as a developer desperately seeking source rather than just using your computer as a computer.
Or the fact that no local computer stores will support Linux so if you really are stuck you remain brick stuck because of how elitist Linux usability is reserved for the technical.
I mean sure, it’s great, if you’re technical and have the kind of time to finally figure out your build.
Some games won’t play on linux and are bannable if you manage. R6 and destiny for example. nvid5070 doesn’t work flawlessly and will crash at load. You have to do extra config. More complex than basic usability.
Lots of details you’re skipping over there and spreading misinformation, Elitist. This is exactly what pisses me off with you linux fanbois
I use Linux. And ‘weird’ is much of the market who use computers are gamers. Possibly the biggest market of computer users. As well as media suites. Both of which are heavily overlooked on usability for the compatibility with fast evolving computer builds right now involving AI fittings. Don’t believe me? Why do you think the nvidia stock is a larger topic of discussion right now than it once was?
Get with the times, grandparent.
This is why I’m able to point every bit of what you’re saying is misinformation. You gatekeeping fanbois are absolute cringe.
Nvidia GPU aren’t a deal breaker on Linux with most of the common distros, it is just that their drivers aren’t baked in to the kernel and tend to be more likely to cause issues. If anything it has gotten better over the years. That being said, I went with AMD for my most recent GPU to avoid this exact issue because I did run into some serious Nvidia drives issues.
Where do you live that local computer stores are still a thing?? I haven’t seen one in 10+ years
Also, many Linux distros are very easy to use these days. I’ve gotten Zoomers using Ubuntu without issues, and they don’t even understand what files and folders are
You can also download a Windows 11 ISO and instead of using the official Microsoft tool, use Rufus to create a bootable USB stick. You can specify a local account to create in the tool.
To be clear, I agree we shouldn’t have to go through so many hoops to just not have an account on a local OS… At the same time I agree spreading misinformation on the subject is not good either…
Here is a fact: as long as you talk about workarounds, people stay on a hostile platform. Maybe better to actually teach people to fish and not be suckers.
No disagreement about lying to get people on your side. That was not necessary. But also, the arguments even without the lie are still good. Microsoft shouldn’t have to lie too, to discourage people from having more control over their machines.
I’m pretty sure that your login creds get cached locally for some amount of time, so you can login without Internet. I know my corporate AAD laptop does that, but I refused to use consumer MS accounts on a personal device.
Has Microsoft started locking local user accounts?
I mean, actually locking them, not just preventing them from being created.
Preventing their creation on newly installed computers. No workaround as of now.
Oh good, another reason to install Linux on my next reinstall
It might be a stupid reason, I always used a local account even when connecting a Microsoft account later, since I absolutely hate how Windows names the user folder for MS accounts…
If it’s a PC, just grab another drive and install Linux now. Swear to god, you’ll naturally and very quickly just not boot to Windows again. It’s like…
Day 1: Install Ubuntu. Drive around, do stuff, learn.
Day 3: Install a different distro like Mint or whatever. Drive it around.
Day 5: Install the one you ended up liking most. All these installs take like 10 mins top btw, so go nuts.
Day 10: You havent used Windows except maybe for your work’s 365 stuff. All you games, programs, etc. are on Linux now.
Day 14: Wipe the drive Windows is on and reinstall it on a shrunk partition. Only install your stuff for work or just leave it default.
And that’s it. Yourself free, but it’s still there if ever have to use it for something. You’ll groan when you do though. And if you do WFH with work 365 stuff, the best part of the day is logging off and booting back into Linux. It’s like the relief of coming home from work but you’ve been home all day.
Day 99: Install arch
Day 100: Go back to Fedora
I already have a laptop that has Arch running for a Year and I haven’t regretted that a bit.
Im just to lazy to make some space for Linux on my desktop that’s already dying and just waiting until I have replaced the Motherboard and CPU.
Especially since I will need to Dualboot for some programs and Windows really likes to kill my bootloader unless it has its own drive with its own EFI partition
VM time!
I have a windows VM to run some specific tools I need for work. Well, multiple, I have one particular tool that still is useful for certain projects that needs Windows 7 for example.
Not technically running on my desktop though. Ive got a proxmox host for it that I remote into from whatever to do what I need to.
Unless you have an Nvidia GPU*
Nice of you to skip over the whole current Nvidia driver mess regarding Linux like it’s that simple
Or the non streamlined GUI sessions and installs that are still a WIP rife with incompatibility and constantly verging on obsolete so you’re spending more and more of your time as a developer desperately seeking source rather than just using your computer as a computer.
Or the fact that no local computer stores will support Linux so if you really are stuck you remain brick stuck because of how elitist Linux usability is reserved for the technical.
I mean sure, it’s great, if you’re technical and have the kind of time to finally figure out your build.
Not so great if you’re not and strapped for time
I really don’t understand where this hostility towards Linux comes from. It’s like people WANT to hate it.
Linux supports NVIDIA GPUs just fine. You can either use the open source drivers or one click install the NVIDIA drivers from the GUI software center.
I recently bought a pre-built gaming PC with an NVIDIA GPU.
Notice that none of these steps involved any googling or frustration.
You don’t need local computer stores if you get stuck. Just find a forum or chat room with a bunch of nerds and ask for help.
Sure some Linux users are elitists but most of us are just trying to build a better world out here.
Some games won’t play on linux and are bannable if you manage. R6 and destiny for example. nvid5070 doesn’t work flawlessly and will crash at load. You have to do extra config. More complex than basic usability.
Lots of details you’re skipping over there and spreading misinformation, Elitist. This is exactly what pisses me off with you linux fanbois
I guess that makes it misinformation to say that Linux just works in general?
This is such a wild take haha. If you don’t want to use Linux that’s fine but pointing out weird edge cases doesn’t disprove what I said.
I use Linux. And ‘weird’ is much of the market who use computers are gamers. Possibly the biggest market of computer users. As well as media suites. Both of which are heavily overlooked on usability for the compatibility with fast evolving computer builds right now involving AI fittings. Don’t believe me? Why do you think the nvidia stock is a larger topic of discussion right now than it once was?
Get with the times, grandparent.
This is why I’m able to point every bit of what you’re saying is misinformation. You gatekeeping fanbois are absolute cringe.
Nvidia GPU aren’t a deal breaker on Linux with most of the common distros, it is just that their drivers aren’t baked in to the kernel and tend to be more likely to cause issues. If anything it has gotten better over the years. That being said, I went with AMD for my most recent GPU to avoid this exact issue because I did run into some serious Nvidia drives issues.
Where do you live that local computer stores are still a thing?? I haven’t seen one in 10+ years
Also, many Linux distros are very easy to use these days. I’ve gotten Zoomers using Ubuntu without issues, and they don’t even understand what files and folders are
Elitist says what.
No workaround?
That is incorrect.
There are plenty of workarounds, here are a two:
I am all for bashing Windows, but please argue facts, not imaginations.
You can also download a Windows 11 ISO and instead of using the official Microsoft tool, use Rufus to create a bootable USB stick. You can specify a local account to create in the tool.
Pointing out to this comment that suggest another option to bypass the account :
https://reddthat.com/comment/22001680
To be clear, I agree we shouldn’t have to go through so many hoops to just not have an account on a local OS… At the same time I agree spreading misinformation on the subject is not good either…
Probably allowing you to build up precious data before fully locking you out after an update.
Here is a fact: as long as you talk about workarounds, people stay on a hostile platform. Maybe better to actually teach people to fish and not be suckers.
Here is one of my strongest held opinions:
You should not lie to get people on your side.
If your arguments are not good enough, then perhaps it is better to let people do what they are used to.
No disagreement about lying to get people on your side. That was not necessary. But also, the arguments even without the lie are still good. Microsoft shouldn’t have to lie too, to discourage people from having more control over their machines.
OK, no workaround un Win11.
But that’s beside the point: what about un 3 months? 2 years?
There have been several workarounds in Windows 11 posted in this thread.
Everytime M$ pulls the ratchet tighter more people will escape, just let it happen naturaly.
Advice about the alternatives, but don’t lie about either side.
There are things that Windows does better than the competition, the vice versa, be honest and argue in good faith.
Sorry OOTL on this. Does that mean auth won’t be local, that users won’t be able to work offline?
I’m pretty sure that your login creds get cached locally for some amount of time, so you can login without Internet. I know my corporate AAD laptop does that, but I refused to use consumer MS accounts on a personal device.
No, that just means that an installation with a Microsoft account will track you with it.
But I’m nor saying you won’t get any tracking with a local account either. In any case there is “telemetry”.
SHUT IT DOWN.
Grab that Chris Titus tool from GitHub and turn it all off
No, you just need a MS account to install windows now. Then you can go back to your local accounts.
Only Windows Home. Edu and Pro are fine with domain join option to skip, then enter local account.