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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 days ago

Explaining conspiracy theories to an Amerikkkan. "Now imagine a burger..."

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Explaining conspiracy theories to an Amerikkkan. "Now imagine a burger..."

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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 days ago
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  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    6.5 million burgers

    millions of cows

    I’m not an expert on the meat industry by any means but I’m pretty sure you’re getting more than three or four burgers from a single cow

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      a cow gives about 500 pounds of ground beef. which is 2000 0.25 pound patties!

      that’s 3250 cows.

      • BountifulEggnog [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Still feels real bad when you put it that way :sadness:

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        3k cows die every single day just for McDonald’s to continue operating? That’s sickening

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          yeah something like that.

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Well to be fair a lot of that beef likely comes from baby cows as well

        • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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          veal is pretty expensive

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            The pieces of the baby corpse sold off as veal are expensive, the rest gets ground up. A baby cow is typically very inexpensive since it’s considered a wasteproduct of milk production.

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        MvDonald’s hamburgers and cheeseburgers are 1/10 pound, and they probably sell more of those.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        Plus at least 500 pigs and maybe 10,000 chickens.

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    Big number

    dafoe-horror

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    Americans really struggle with scale

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      And also on them.

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        niko-dunk

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    Industrial agriculture denialism is a new one

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      The industrial aspect makes it hard to comprehend, the numbers are overwhelmingly large

      • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        The meat industry also has a vested in you not understanding how the holocaust-style killing of animals works

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      they’re turning the frickin frogs into boerger

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        macron

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          Deep substrate foliated kalkite

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      It makes sense ‘cause they’re already prone to denying the holocaust and centristly trying to go "well I’m sure the truth’s somewhere between 0 and # million’. And since it’s basically the same mode of production to do it and they can’t imagine society letting it happen for some reason, they’ll just deny it.

      Edit: Also does first-world soy-conservative thing of taking an awful thing that’s happening to someone else and flipping it to actually be about themselves instead, i.e. meat-eaters are being tricked into eating whatever rather than millions of creatures are being converted into food stuffs.

  • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Some people are so deeply removed from agriculture that they never even think about where their food comes from.

    • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      This person is trying to they’re just not doing a very good job of it

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    tfw youve never seen a cow irl.

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    If you can look up the burgers per day figure, why can’t you look up the other figures that would answer your question?

    Similarly, if you take the 6.5 million figure at face value, why can’t you take the other related figures at face value?

    So fucking sick of anti-intellectualism. I fought hard to get out of the peasant world and peasant mindset but it’s going mainstream! This is why I blocked the dunk tank lol.

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    People underestimate just how many animals are bred for meat. I often wonder what impact it would have on the environment if humans suddenly disappeared, and all these farm animals escaped.

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      Lions would make a big comeback for a little while

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      Even if you stretched one cow into a bunch of burgers

      lmao, I think you’re overestimating this guy, he hasn’t even figured out that you can get more than one burger out of a cow.

    • ThermonuclearEgg [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I often wonder what impact it would have on the environment if humans suddenly disappeared

      Probably some significant environmental fallout from that alone as a final legacy of humanity… maybe some nuclear accidents if you time it right

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        How automated are the fail saves in these reactors really? I would assume a good number of them would eventually melt down and without anyone there to stop that from going on, you’re looking at a bunch of Chernobyls, continuously spewing out irradiated particles.

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      Wow, that sounds like Animal Farm. The message of that story is, ofc, that animals are better off being regularly murdered.

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      They underestimate just how much land is needed for the food supply in general.

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    approximately 91.000 cattle are slaughtered daily in the USA

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      That’s only 72 burgers per cattle to supply McDonalds, and there’s almost certainly much more than 72 burgers woth of meat in a cow.

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        McDonalds buys beef internationally, they’re not using American beef where they can avoid paying for it

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          im surprised by this. i assumed home-grown beef was cheaper

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            Beef is resource intensive. Better to have poor countries waste their cheaper resources than to pay for domestic resources.

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            Shipping is also really cheap, even refrigerated. The last mile is one of the biggest costs, so the next state over and the other side of the world have quite similar costs and carbon emissions.

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        according to my sloppy sleuthin, a beef cow provides 500lbs of dressed beef. mcdonalds patties are 1.5oz precooked weight. if all produced into ground beef, each cow therefore provides mcd’s 5330 burger patties (likely more with the fillers they use e.g. cellulose gel but there’s no data available on their filler%)

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    Carnists turn a blind eye to CAFO torture, mass slaughter, while completely destroying the environment for something that gives them heart disease while making fun of vegans…

    But where do the cows come from?

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      My uncle’s farm, he treats them really well 🥰

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    even if you do the math…

    calculate(NumCows * Bunch)

    i just ran these calculations through my computer and, not only did it not display 6.5 million, i got several errors referring to a syntax (SIN TAX???).

    pretty sure this one goes all the way to the top. ✝️🛐

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      In America, even the wages of sin are subject to taxation

      • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Why am I only half-dead? what the hell is FICA??

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    Is this a backdoor Holocaust denial thing?

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      They do call that one agricultural area of California “Cowschwitz”

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        come on Dacow was right there

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          Jesus lmao

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        for anyone unaware there is a section of highway 5 that runs directly alongside a feedlot for several miles

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        visible-disgust

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      I’d bet that this is a ‘protect the children’ conspiracy guy, and soylent green burgers is to explain where the five trillion kids who go missing every year are

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      It looks kinda suspicious but I can’t tell. I’m also not sure where the 6.5M/day number came from

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        I think it’s from this article, because it’s the first search result and the one the AI overview refers to: https://www.foodrepublic.com/1769851/how-many-burgers-mcdonalds-sells-daily/

        The 6.5 million might be a coincidence, but I really don’t want to give anyone the benefit of the doubt over this.

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    Soylent Green BigMac is people!!! not-built-for-this

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    If burger can’t stretch across globe, then how can we all eat burger?

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      The Earth is round

      The Earth is flat

      The Earth is borger

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    This logic could be applied to anything.

    Cars burn millions of gallons of gas.

    I don’t understand how gas is produced.

    What are they making this “gas” out of?

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      Cow farts, you silly duffer

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