“Illinois will not let the Trump administration continue on their authoritarian march without resisting,” vowed Democratic Gov. JB Pritzker.
Oh yeah? So what are you gonna do to stop it? You’re the governor. Fucking do something about it words are meaningless
Fucking mobilize the Illinois NG and direct them and state and local police to arrest any ICE agent or Texas NG member for breaking state law
Because they are breaking state law. Don’t Dems love talking about being the party of “Law and Order”? Get your dudes with guns out there to enforce the fucking law Then
but but but it’s not order if you have to enact it through the barrel of a gun…!
That’s Arresting Political Opponents ! Only authoritarians do that! Even when those opponents break the law. Especially when they break the law!
This is what he's going to do about it
Absolutely fucking nothing
Just you wait! He’s gonna mobilize the national guard! Oh… wait…
Even when they are completely justified, Democrats are feckless cowards.
resisting is when you quote popular culture
One thing about the current political climate is that it exposes Dems as soon as they see a meteoric rise in popularity.
Don’t have to wait 3 years for them to wear their pants around their ankles. They get Trump checked within 3 weeks of new found fame and they show their cowardice
They’re about to retweet a cartoon of the orangist baby trump with the tinyest hands ever seen.
And the diaper? Yeah it’s gonna be soiled this time. Nuclear option.
What gets me is that this was the outcome of a republican win in 2024 and the democrats’ strategy to prevent it was to run Kamala fucking Harris.
huh
I kinda thought we wouldn’t get a civil war this century. It just doesn’t make sense, the geography isn’t right for it. Red states and blue states are too much interdependent, the parties holding power tend to do so on fairly slim majorities, and the cultural differences are frankly overstated. It’s all the same logic of production, all private ownership backed up and mediated by state constitutions that all look pretty damn similar.
But I guess we’re blundering along into one anyway? Cus everyone across the various leaderships feels urged to act, but none of them want to do the work of thinking it through, so we just get a mess whatever each individual seems to think is the easiest response to hand? This seems bizarre. Like, everyone involved is sleepwalking, they all seem to know they’re sleepwalking, but they expect to just wake up at some point and then its back to business as usual.
Does this post even make any sense? Am I missing something?
It’s not even a red state-blue state divide, it’s an urban/rural divide. City folk and country folk airing grievances at each other, some of them legitimate, but mostly just attributing the failure of neoliberalism to deliver the ideal future they imagined to the other group for having a different set of cultural totems.
Which is why the rhetoric gets more agitated and the stunts more grandiose, but there’s no thinking through the process, as you observe. It’s a very id-driven politics, everyone wants immediate retribution for perceived slights, but it’s all knee jerk, no consideration of the why and how of the situation.
The maddening thing about the urban/rural divide is that over the last ~150 years, the differences between the two have shrunk! By a lot. We all get our food from the grocery store! We all have to drive to get anywhere! We’re all plugged into the same television/internet! And, of course as you point out, WE’RE ALL PLAGUED BY NEOLIBERALISM!
aaaaaaghhghghhg
Currently the big divide between rural and urban is racial integration; in lots of cities white people have shrunk from a majority to a plurality, and there’s much greater richess of diversity in cultural influences. On the other hand, lots of rural areas are basically still “whites-only” sunset towns.
That’s why conservatives are obsessed with talking about “sanctuary cities”, “Democrat-run cities”, “urban crime”, “burning down cities”, “city warzone”, it’s just dogwhistles for “we think civil rights was a mistake and segregation never should have ended”.
Yeah… yeah. God but this country never really changes does it? It feels that way sometimes.
It’s not even a red state-blue state divide, it’s an urban/rural divide.
There is an urban/rural divide but the red/blue divide is very real.
Rural New England isn’t anything like the rural midwest
I don’t know why everyone seems to think it’s ever going to be along a corporate party divide. If civil war breaks out, democrats are probably going to go collaborationist faster than you can say “we’re all in this together”.
Democrats have all the backbone of a pressure cooked chicken, the establishment will not rise up in arms unless Trump overplays his hand so recklessly and violently that a breeze might tip him over. If it starts, it’s gonna be due to some regional economic considerations like energy policy/water autonomy along the Rio Colorado, discontent over land rights and agricultural policy in the Heartland, some shit like that.
I’m scared for my best friend and his family. They’re Puerto Rican and live in Chicagoland.
This really should be the death of liberal politics and the reverence of the constitution, but it will not be…people are still going to hold on to that as if it will save them from Trumps complete takeover and fascist makeover of the country.
Trump has figured out that the so-called checks and balances are meaningless when there is no independent apparatus to enact them. I really just hope the average person can see that the country ran, poorly, on “good faith and manners” for over 200 years, but, when push comes to shove, the government as it is simply does not work.
Andrew Jackson figured out this one neat trick and nobody really made a problem out of it.
My new take will be blaming everything on Henry Clay for being a coward.
I dont even get what theyre trying to accomplish here. Like, obviously the right is trying to provoke a civil war, right? But what happens when nobody really takes the bait? Are we just going to have hundreds of troops twiddling their thumbs in the middle of chicago waiting for something to happen?
I think that’s the problem they’re running into. Much like the left, they want to think we’re closer to a revolutionary moment than we are. Nobody is taking the bait. Charlie Kirk wasn’t the beginning of the leftist uprising. They’re going into these cities only to be met by people holding signs and dancing. The liberals in charge aren’t doing much to resist them, just letting them take whoever. The cops aren’t fed up enough to refuse orders. They can’t seem to get a good series of crises rolling.
The only thing they can do is establish precedent, normalize it and wait for a crisis that will spark mass conflict. If it doesn’t happen in the next 4 years they will have laid the groundwork for when it does. It also makes great content for the right wing media industry. All the podcasters, news, and TV shows get to talk about something and point towards some vague notion of progress towards defeating the enemy. They don’t have to create or enact policy, just show videos of them terrorizing the enemy.
The liberals in charge aren’t doing much to resist them, just letting them take whoever. The cops aren’t fed up enough to refuse orders.
It really is wild how this huge bloc of the GOP seems to have earnestly forgotten that they have a symbiotic relationship with the Democratic party, that they’re partners in a big game of bad cop/physical-manifestation-of-pure-evil-made-flesh cop and that the Democrats exist to launder all of the GOP’s monstrous evil into a form that the public will begrudgingly accept while couping and shutting down every left wing movement that gains popular momentum.
OH MY GAW IT’S THE ANN TEEFER TERRORISTS!!
They win either ways.
How?
They’re going to do all that nazi shit without any reaistance. Forcible seizure of wealth or power from political opponents and undesirables, more segregation, more deportations, more deregulation, etc.
The violence serves the purpose of forcing policy in case of resistance. If there’s no resistance, then the changes in policy are basically pushed through for free.
I see.
Things are bad but we haven’t reached seizure of wealth of trumps enemies status yet although I can see how close we are.
We aren’t seeing resistance because materially little has changed for the majority (white) population other than the job market sucks and grocery prices are high which also occurred under Biden admin.
It sucks but USians are famous for there apathy and “individualism”
The US was unironically about to join Germany in WW2 before Japan pulled a fucking hilarious own goal and decided to attack.
Yes the attack was in response to US actions but they were genuinely about to join the axis or, at best, let Germany have Europe lmao
The US was about to join Germany in ww2? Thats something I haven’t heard before. Do you have a place where I can read up on this history?
Illinois should start deploying troops to Texas.
And troops to Illinois to confront the Texas troops.
They should have had them dig in before the hogs crossed the border
1000% this, fucking useless libs
