US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China’s space program::undefined

  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    Especially stupid considering last time they gave the space program appropriate funding, it led to a lot of advancements that the military industrial complex could use.

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      10 months ago

      You make it sound like the military advancements were an unexpected byproduct, as opposed to the real goal.

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        10 months ago

        The goal was optics. Kennedy didn’t know what advances would result from Apollo. He wanted to show that the US was better at science and technology than Russia.

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          10 months ago

          The science of putting a ballistic payload anywhere, including heaven.

          The space race was awesome because it let the two countries measure their dicks (specifically their military dicks) without actually obliterating the planet.

          The “for all mankind” angle was a great way to frame things for the population of Earth, for sure. But just like mobile chemical WMD labs in Iraq, sometimes the given justification and actual justification are two different things.

          Don’t get me wrong, there absolutely were beneficial optics. Something doesn’t have to just be for one thing. But it was always primarily about practical demonstration of weapons capacity under the facade of human exploration.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t disagree, but has anyone found corroborating evidence or documentation, past speculation and reasonable assumption?

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              10 months ago

              No, I don’t think anyone has definitely proven that George W Bush and Colin Powell KNEW that the WMD claims in Iraq were bullshit when they were presenting them as the primary justification for the war.

              It’s just the nature of the beast.

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              10 months ago

              Ha, I was actually taking about the space program, but same for the invasion. Although, I feel like more people have come forward about the invasion being BS than early space program stuff.