https://theintercept.com/2023/10/13/israel-settlers-gaza-palestinians-west-bank/

Settlers and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday. At least two Palestinian villages have been entirely depopulated.

Settlers — Israeli Jews living in the occupied West Bank — and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Ramallah. At least two villages, Al-Qanub and Wadi Al-Sik, have been entirely depopulated as a result of the violence by Israeli settlers.

the rest of the article is a list of local stories.

  • iyaerP@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Isreal and being genocidal conquerors. Name a more ironically iconic duo.

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      11 months ago

      You really enjoy using inciting language like „genocidal conquerors“, huh? You are also purposefully mixing the Israeli government and the civilian population. Are you referring to Hamas as „baby slaughtering and murdering rapists“ on the other hand? By your standards you have to extend this to the whole population of Gaza, too.

      • ABCDE@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        It’s an article about the West Bank, so… what do you expect?

        We could also cover Gaza too if we want to include the women and children killing IDF who bombs fleeing people?

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    11 months ago

    Deplorable.

    There were some unconfirmed reports that the reason Hamas was able to do so much damage is because 3 battalions that were supposed to guard the border with Gaza were moved to the west bank to protect these illegal settlements.

    The audacity to continue doing this shit while their country is still trying to recover from the biggest terrorist attack in their history is just unbelievable.

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    11 months ago

    I grew up on a jewish settlement with goons just like these. Racism taught to them by religion and nationalism. Not too far off from a Nazi youth upbringing the way we talked about eradicating Palestinians.

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      11 months ago

      As a part jewish person I am thankful that people like you exist. People, and especially people that grew around it, should talk more about how dangerous this virulent nationalist ideology is and how much it resembles the nazi ideology in Germany.

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    11 months ago

    Where are the people calling this an obvious fake, that called the Hamas „Top Secret“ document an obvious fake?

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      11 months ago

      It surprises you that bodies are more easily verified than “hey look bro they had this freshly printed sheet of paper bro it tells you how terrible they were planning to be bro you gotta trust me bro”

      Like, what motive would anyone else have for faking this? Anyone capable of thinking for a millisecond that hey, maybe Israel is capable of doing negative things is already disgusted with them for “not wasting a good crisis”.

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    You really enjoy using inciting language like „genocidal conquerors“, huh? You are also purposefully mixing the Israeli government and the civilian population. Are you referring to Hamas as „baby slaughtering and murdering rapists“ on the other hand? By your standards you have to extend this to the whole population of Gaza, too.

    Edit: I posted my reply to a comment from iyaerP falsely - corrected that.

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      Settlers aren’t the government, they’re just private citizens taking people’s homes from them. This all sucks. We’re all losing. No one is winning when children are dying.

      We shouldn’t have to constantly qualify every statement we make when we talk about this. Just a constant stream of tone policing while children are dying.

      • gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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        11 months ago

        Just that children are dying because of spiral of hatered and violance, promoted by populism. But its obviously up to everyone if they want to participate.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        I’m not, I’m pro Palestinians and pro Israeli… I’m anti Hamas, Netanyahu and Settlers though

        • Eheran@lemmy.world
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          That is good, but read what people post here, it is completely fucked up. Twisting reality and history to fit their narrative. On Reddit I see it mostly the other way around, with overwhelming support to Israel, wanting to flatten all of Gaza etc. People are fucked up.

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                Technically using white phosphorus in a densely populated area to start fires is just a war crime…

                But yeah, Israel’s actions fit the modern definition of genocide, because they’re treating civilians as enemy combatants and bombing the evacuation routes they told civilians was safe

                In contemporary international law the crime of genocide is part of the broader category of “crimes against humanity,” which were defined by the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nürnberg Charter). The charter granted the tribunal jurisdiction to indict and try the leaders of the Nazi regime for inhumane acts committed against civilians, as well as for acts of persecution on political, racial, or religious grounds; in so doing, it also contributed to the international criminalization of other forms of abusive conduct.

                https://www.britannica.com/topic/genocide

                You don’t get a free pass to commit genocide because a completely unrelated group tried to do on to your ancestors 80 years ago…

      • Dax87@forum.stellarcastle.net
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        its just so sad. i thought reddit had pretty extreme views, but lemmy seems to be just worse. i guess this is where the crazies went when they got banned from reddit.

        and lemmy’s growth will suffer for it.

        • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
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          It’s not extreme to recognize that a US-backed apartheid state is running an extermination campaign against a marginalized group. While a small number of Palestinians are members of Hamas, that doesn’t give Israel the right to commit genocide. Not that they’ve needed “the right” to do so for the past 70 years.

          • Eheran@lemmy.world
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            A small part of Germans were Nazis, but all of Germany had to be defeated to stop their terror. How would you have dealt with them?

            Hamas are far smaller, obviously, but able to commit just as fucked up atrocities. They actively use the innocent civilians as their meat shield. How to deal with them?

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              Yes. The terrorists use the suffering of the Palestinian people in Gaza as an excuse to attack Israel.

              Now; If the government of Israel was to stop the horrible treatment of Palestinians by rightwing ‘settler’ provocateurs and its own soldiers, then Hamas (or any other terrorist organisations) would have very little excuse to use Gaza as a base.

              • Eheran@lemmy.world
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                They wanted to destroy Israel ever since it exists. Attacking it on the first day after they declared independence. Not accepting any sort of deal, only wanting destruction.

                How to deal with people that want to destroy you, never settling for less? Despite getting defeated every time.

                • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                  11 months ago

                  What?

                  Do you think Israel was just empty land no one was using?

                  If the people who used to live their for generations attacked it the day after Israel was formed…

                  Doesn’t that just mean they tried to fight off invaders to protect their home?

                  You’re acting like Israel was somehow the victim for stealing a shit ton of land that was culturally significant to the rightful residents.

                  If me and my cousins showed up to your house, told you God gave it to us, would you “attack” us to defend your home? Or just go off and live on the street a couple miles away?

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                  Israel was a settler-colonial project from its inception. The people living there had every right to oppose it.

                  Despite getting defeated every time.

                  Might makes right?