

They are incompatible with end stages of communism, but not socialism, and even then, I don’t think they’re saying they’ve already built socialism or communism, I think they’re saying that they are building it.
i don’t think they will ultimately decide to start transitioning to either, because that would require a lot of people in power relinquishing it, but I think it’s better to try and actually understand both sides rather than argue against strawmen.
also, the argument of socialism is that the workers should own the means of production not that there should be some arbitrary wealth cap. Marx never said anything about a wealth cap, though many socialists would want one it isn’t fundamental to socialism, there’s even types of socialist called market socialists, ultimately the only characteristic that unifies socialists is worker control over the means of production.













That means the dutch model can’t get software updates… so like does it matter? Call me when they start disabling buses.