uh no. this is gross

Exactly, making $100 million profit on stop-motion is like feverishly, lovingly crafting a bespoke hot air balloon with a thousand discarded model airplane kits and then realizing you’ve somehow survived landing on the moon.

no, classifying a picture that makes an $80 million dollar profit as a “failure” is factually incorrect, albeit a useful tactic for studios and headline writers.

making an 80% profit is a success in any business, and a triumph in most businesses; that’s how budgets wotk.

I don’t think that table is formatted correctly, I can’t imagine it was $60 million for all four movies. yea, the budget for each is listed around $60 million.

That’s what studios publicly lament about without going into detail. Between streaming, retail and merchandising alone, they’re making their money back.

Marketing campaigns are not bankrupting movie profits.

If a studio makes 180 box office on a 100 million dollar production and they say they’ve lost 80 mil through marketing, they are pulling your leg.

“ah yeah, first quarter my team only made 23 points, oh well, thats the game.”

No, there are three other quarters that the studio isn’t talking about because it reduces their future negotiating leverage.

Of course studios want more money, but studios aren’t losing money on movies that get close but don’t tip the magic number of “double the budget”

I also didn’t hear about it until last year, and I don’t I have any memory of seeing previews or promotion for the film.

That’s very cool to hear, cross-generational appreciation.

It’s pretty different from live action according to creators and producers, it’s such a small market and stop motion is so difficult to explain and get off the ground and promote that financial expectations are much more realistic.

You’re right that if a live-action movie costs $100 million to make grosses $180 million, the producers are upset, but that’s a greedy, ego-driven convention of the modern studio system, they are still making tens of millions of dollars before everything on the back end is added in.

The stop-motion world has a more realistic perspective on production and the artists love every single piece of art they create, so also making $40 million as evidence that their art style can succeed in mainstream culture is the cherry on top of any project that even gets to be fully produced.

i heard about this on a podcast. it is great news for stop-motion, and considering how many shitty rich people there are, it’s nice to know there’s a couple good ones promoting art.

Also their movies are good and all but one of their movies made tens of millions of dollars.

for stop-motion, a very niche art-form, making 10-130 million dollars profit per film is laudable.

went too big with missing link though, which i haven’t seen yet.

US history is pretty well documented.

Relative domestic peace and international peace, which has no bearing on the fact that the United States has been steadily eroding civil rights and making disastrous domestic anf foreign policy decisions for decades that set it on this course.

the 90s - spiking lobbying and money in politics, the Gulf War, wage theft and stagnation massively increasing, corporate antitrust laws abandoned, huge leap in school shootings, domestic and foreign terror attacks against the US, the supreme court in a hundred different unconstitutional rulings, civil forfeiture statutes doubling, police militarization, qualified immunity for police officers violating civil rights and the Constitution, and the millennium should be capped off with the decision of Bush v. Gore in 2000 that can be seen directly leading to election interferences in US elections 20 years later.

just some of the events directly leading the United States toward what they are experiencing now.

You mean you don’t believe in history?

I was referring much further back in terms of the steady removal and erosion of domestic US civil rights, but if you don’t recognize the united states anymore from 20 years ago, then it sounds like you didn’t know the country that well 20-30 years ago. there are some very strong parallels occurring between then and now - oil wars, civil rights erosion, election interference, a whole recycle, although the pace has increased under trump

Honestly, maybe you didn’t know the country that well.

Domestic rights have been eroded steadily for decades, and the United States makes and has always made some truly awful foreign policy decisions, and it’s not like the US was founded as a paragon of virtue in the first place.

The collapse of the US has rapidly accelerated along its own course with trump’s two terms and there’s less chance to redeem themselves with how rapidly he’s tearing everything apart.

It’s a lot harder to change track when you’re screaming down the rails.

it’ll survive, the US is very malleable, but the world order is rapidly shifting so that other world powers and policies that are much more hatmful than US policy are ascending or have surpassed the United States that the US cannot halt or change anymore, especially without allies that it’s withdrawn from or attacked.

This is what happened., just not bin laden personally.

trump ended up killing and terrorizing way more people with grave national damage that sent multiple messages across the world than 9-11 did.

Trump’s incompetency and moral/intellectual failings were why so many enemy countries worked so hard and succeeded in installing Trump the first, and especially the second time.

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Smoking makes you get older faster all over, definitely also your hair.

sell my baseball cards, i don’t care.

Ha in high school yea. now I’ve talked to enough of them to know they’re thinking about something completely random and unrelated to me and often nothing at all, which I find the most interesting.

Like they might have literally just been staring at a tree for five minutes. And then I talk to them and they’re like 'I was just looking at this tree."

Especially these days, people seem increasingly surprised that a human is actually talking to them in real life.