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  • China has been attempting to push for a Dual Circulation Economy (external growth e.g. export balanced by internal growth e.g. domestic consumption) since 2020. This ended in a remarkable failure as China’s trade surplus soared to a record $1 trillion while the domestic economy undergoes deflation and wage stagnation.

    So what’s the problem here?

    The government tries everything, from fighting involution, to promoting consumption through giving various subsidies and lowering credit interest, except to address the elephant in the room: wealth inequality.

    In June 2020, the late Premier Li Keqiang (RIP) revealed to the nation for the first time that 600 million of our population still live, on average, with an income of 1000 yuan (~$150) per month. For most of us, this was the first time that we learned about this fact - coming straight from the government itself.

    Despite talks about eradicating absolute poverty, it is sobering to realize that the bottom 40% of China’s population (most of them in rural areas) still live on very low wages. This 600 million sized demographic contributes effectively very little to the domestic consumption.

    The people that spend the most are the middle/upper middle class. However, these middle class people are now facing a serious problem: many of them bought houses in the 2010s, and the property prices are now plunging. As the asset prices continue to deflate, they are unable to sell their houses, and still have to pay the mortgage for the next 30 years. As such, consumption from this group is also plunging, leading to deflation as businesses fail, and more people are getting unemployed as production scales down.

    As an anecdote, my friend persuaded her husband, AND her parents, AND her parents-in-law to purchase houses in 2019 - when the property bubble was already near its peak (although everyone still had the illusion that it will keep growing forever, somehow). The whole extended family went ALL IN. By 2021, Evergrande would begin its implosion and house prices across the country would begin to fall. Now, the average house prices have fallen to 2017 level, and they have effectively lost 40-50% from the initial value, but still have to work harder than ever to pay off the mortgage loan. She keeps complaining that she has lost the will to live.

    That’s just the reality of the middle class in China today. People reduce spending and begin to save wherever they can for the fear of losing their jobs in the broad climate of economic downturn and uncertainty. And the accumulated savings - money not spent - set off the deflationary spiral as less consumption led to less business activity, less profit, less demand, and less need to keep workers employed.

    What China is doing to prevent a downturn is to dump its exports to other regions amidst Trump’s tariffs, causing countries like Mexico to put up 50% tariffs on Chinese goods to protect its industries and in return, invited China’s wrath. So China’s economy is probably going to be fine, but the Global South countries will have to suffer because of China’s neoliberal policies.

    This is why I keep saying that you cannot resolve these fundamental issues without directly tackling the wealth inequality. And the wealth inequality comes from the neoliberal ideas of “balancing the budget”, which encourages countries to run trade surpluses by suppressing domestic demand, when what they should be doing is to run large deficits and give people the money to spend.

    There are 600 million people who live on 1000 yuan monthly. If China is willing to give up its neoliberal model and start raising the income of these people through running high deficits, then it can unleash the true potential of China’s domestic consumption to solve much of its economic woes. That’s how you tackle wealth inequality.


  • XHS take, who hypes nothing ever

    This is not correct lol. I was one of the loudest voices on de-dollarization back when Biden raised the interest rate to “fight inflation” back in 2022 and early 2023 that led to a global dollar liquidity crisis.

    I was hyping when Russia (very correctly) forgave $20 billion of Africa’s debt in August 2022, and China also followed suit with waiving the interests of some African debtors. I said very clearly back then that if China used its dollar reserve to pay off $800 billion of Africa’s debt, then we have a chance of wiping the slate clean and forge an alternative economic bloc while the US was mired in soaring inflation.

    However, I also warned that the so-called BRICS nations, if they were serious about de-dollarization, have a limited window because when the short term US treasuries begin to mature, the huge fiscal flow generated from interest payment will simply flood the external sector and reverse the dollar liquidity shortage again. This proved to be correct.

    I hype when the conditions are right. I don’t hype now because… the conditions simply aren’t there.

    Having said that, I still pin some hope on the 15th Five Year Plan. So we’ll see.




  • Not necessarily. Japan doesn’t follow MMT and is just as much of a neoliberal brainrot. Bond vigilantes have been hysterically speculating for years about Japanese Government Bonds, yet nothing ever happens. Turns out the yield curve was under the control of Bank of Japan at all times. That’s because Japanese debt was only issued in yen, of which it has infinite supply of.

    As @FuckyWucky@hexbear.net said, Truss was weak, and so she got bullied by the bond speculators.

    As for the US, there is no credit risk for US treasuries. It is near impossible to get to a point where the US government cannot pay its interests, unless some major catastrophe happened in the country and its economy collapses overnight. As such, US treasuries are simply free money for the rich and there will always be a demand for it.

    The main error of these bond vigilantes is that they still think of currencies in terms of fixed exchange rate as in the gold standard or Bretton Woods era, which hasn’t been the case in our world for at least 50 years. It’s also why Austrians (and some neoclassicals) continue to believe in gold and crypto and bet on the dollar collapsing.






  • any major BRICS or Global South conference, geopolitical analysts will say that they’re finally getting serious, but then in the end there’s very little momentum, and the ‘nothing ever happens gang’ stays winning.

    Honestly we only have to look at the data to see where the trend is heading.

    This table from China’s Customs tells you everything you need to know about this “no-limits friendship” between Russia and China.

    Jan-Jul Total Year-on-Year
    Russian Federation Export -8.5% Import -7.7%

    So much for the unlimited friendship when it seems Russia is only good at offering energy, raw resources and possibly some military technology.

    Similar for the Belt and Road countries:

    “Jointly build the countries along Belt and Road Routes” Export +10.4% Import -3.1%

    So much for Chinese investment on the Belt and Road countries yet not buying from them to give them the opportunity to earn the money to pay back their creditors.

    Who else do you think these Belt and Road countries are going to sell to? There used to be a country that is willing to absorb their surplus goods, but now the Orange King says deficit is too much, and wants to cut back. As a result, China is effectively exporting its unemployment to the countries that are most closely tied to China as a trading partner, because they will be the ones most vulnerable to China dumping its own surplus goods into their countries.

    The same goes for the other regions:

    Southeast Asia (ASEAN) Export +13.5% Import +0.2%
    Latin America Export +7.3% Import -4.2%
    Africa Export +24.5% Import +3.6%

    Other BRICS members have it even worse:
    India Export +13.4% Import -7.1%
    Brazil Export -3.0% Import -12.1%
    South Africa Export -0.1% Import -8.5%

    If BRICS/SCO are serious about forming an independent trade bloc from the US, then they better hurry up with settling amongst themselves how they’re going resolve this huge trade imbalance issue. Otherwise it’s pure mercantilism and the US is happy to sit back and watch these Global South countries getting their domestic industries killed off by the huge volume of Chinese exports directed away from the US/EU market.

    This is why I keep saying, for at least a dozen times now, that China has to give up its neoliberal policy and start raising the income of its people such that China can start importing from these countries. The country that runs the record trade surplus (>$1 trillion USD) has the biggest responsibility in this case. Funnily enough, this will almost immediately solve the domestic consumption/deflation problem that China is facing, as the income/purchasing power of their working class is directly raised.

    There is simply no reason for an economy as strong as China’s to hoard low/intermediate value-added industries while many other countries simply couldn’t compete with Chinese goods at all.

    Actually, there is a reason and you all know what it is: IMF says you need to “balance the budget” (aka “selling cheap goods to the West by running an export-led growth trade surplus strategy”) in order to “climb the global value chain” lol.




  • Kim Jong-il hated China precisely because the reform and opening up led to the normalization of relations with the US, and most critically, with South Korea in the 1980s. China-DPRK relations fell to its worst in the 1990s and 2000s. For a long time, the DPRK was seen as a nuisance.

    I don’t know much about Kim Jong-un’s position… he seems to like Russia/Putin a lot more than China but it’s hard to read given so little information comes out from the DPRK.

    Interestingly, Kim Jong-il’s eldest son, Kim Jong-nam - the OG heir apparent - loved China and wanted the DPRK to undergo similar reform. This led to him being purged and Kim Jong-un had to be recalled from the international school he was attending in Switzerland to be groomed as the next heir. Kim Jong-nam would eventually be assassinated in a Malaysian airport back in 2017, if you remember the news. Someone here once told me that he was a CIA asset and spent most of his time and fortune gambling in Macau lol.


  • That was never the goal.

    Many people don’t remember but there were serious calls for de-dollarization back during the 2022 BRICS summit. Because of the Ukraine war, BRICS leaped from relative obscurity to a major headliner in international news.

    I remember very well lol. The summer of 2022 was the most optimistic I ever got, and it still felt just like yesterday to me because I still cannot cope with so much missed opportunities.

    As I have said repeatedly on this site, the solution is very simple. China simply has to import from the rest of the world and give up its net exporter status (IMF export-led growth model).

    This way, China solves its own domestic consumption and deflation problem, its industrial capacity gets redistributed to the Global South and raise the income in the developing world, allowing them to form an economic bloc that is truly independent from Washington. When nobody has to sell to the US, the dollar becomes useless. That’s how de-dollarization is going to be realistically achieved.

    The current form of BRICS is what you call “multipolar neoliberalism”. With everyone trying to run a trade surplus to adhere to the IMF rules, they are playing from a very disadvantaged position and will only make the Global South more vulnerable to Western financial imperialism.

    Turns out, the greatest weapon the US has - its trump card, if you will (pun very much intended) - is not its military, its nuclear arsenal, or its global financial institutions that can sanction any country. It is the ideological capture of the economists and policymakers from the rest of the world, who went to study in Western universities under full sponsorship from their own governments and brought neoliberalism back to their own countries.






  • Shanghai

    There you go

    Honestly I believe Shanghai has a real potential to become an international cultural hub that rivals NYC. Whatever cultural activities you can think of, you can probably find it in Shanghai. However it lags far behind in terms of demographic diversity at the moment (and probably never will be, depending on how the immigration policy changes in China)


  • Brace should definitely take this opportunity to fly to Shanghai to meet her and give us the real TrueAnon: China episode they’d been joking about for years.

    Also for those who don’t know, she’s kinda a mini-celebrity in China so the pod should definitely look at the possibility of expanding into the international market here lol.