TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.
Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV
But they do have ads at the pumps
Tvs are cheap because manufacturing costs came down. They were cheap before they were smart
Both are true. Manufacturing costs went down significantly, but non-smart TVs are now more expensive than equivalent smart TVs by over $100 from what I have seen.
TVs harvest user data which is monetized as well
Can you even get non smart TVs?
Car companies could learn a lot from the printer industry.
If production of cars and oil were the same companies, cars would be as cheap as TVs and gas for them would be 10x current price.
Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite
The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gasoline, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you’d get something from those crazy “Got milk?” dairy subsidies…
(Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)
2x cheaper is a crazy way of saying half as expensive.
Yet more prof of the insanity of our capitalist system. Fuck this gay earth.
It’s fewer syllables, what’s the problem? And yes, milk is cheaper here than the same quality in the US (despite our 12% VAT) so I don’t see why “cheaper” next to it would feel wrong…
And don’t forget that we don’t get the crap “regular” gasoline with as low as 87 octane rating, the lowest widely available one is 95.Similarly, 75 % of milk drunk here is UHT-treated, as opposed to 10 % in the US.You don’t have much better gasoline there it’s just that you use a different unit for measuring the octane. They aren’t actually much different
Well it’s partially true.
87 AKI is widely available in the US as the minimum octane rating. That translates to 91 RON. I’ve never seen anything under 95 here in Estonia, or at least not this century. 95 and 98 are the only commonly found numbers. 98 is available in the US too, as 93 AKI, but not everywhere as I understand.
TIL, thanks
because expensiveness is a scale that starts from 0 so you always know how expensive everything is. cheapness works the other way, so there’s no starting point. that means there’s no way to quantify how cheap the first thing is, in order to double that. in your example gasoline would have to be the least cheap thing possible, which means nothing can be more expensive.
it’s like saying someone’s twice as short as someone else. half as tall makes sense, twice as short is a weird way to say it because how short is the first person?
“Cheaper” means “less expensive”. 2x cheaper means 2x less expensive, or less expensive by a factor of 2, or 0.5x as expensive. I can say 2x shorter, 2x slower etc. and I don’t see a problem. The adjectives “cheap” and “expensive” don’t relate to a number quantity called “expensiveness” or “cheapness” but “price” or “cost”, which is what the factor applies to, and the word specifies if it’s an increase or decrease. Everyone I know would understand that it’s the reciprocal of the original price, although I get that in a country whose president can say he slashed proces by 500 % without instantly having to resign, fractions and percentages might have to be specified but that’s longer to say for the same number of significant figures.
Yes, I can find people debating “two times cheaper” (English) but not “zweimal billiger” (German) or “dvakrát levnější” (Czech), in fact the phrase is often used in promotional material. The only results suggesting it’s wrong are English Reddit discussions’ automatic translations to German or Czech, and Google’s AI summary that cotes them.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it. Similarly, I provided the metric value and conversion rate, it’s Americans who need to practice mental math.
I won’t stop using it just because people with inferior education sometimes don’t get it.
I doubt anyone doesn’t get it, it just sounds twice as unnatural to a native English speaker.
Whatever, I’m not convincing anyone with my use of metric and username. I’m avoiding some other weird phrases though, for example you won’t usually see me type “14 days” in English although Czech speakers prefer it to “2 weeks” (idk why, it’s the same number of syllables).
you think cows are infinite?
Yes it’s called breeding. You can’t breed more gasoline
Jurassic Park says otherwise 😉
Actually, Bloomberg Finance recently warned about how the cattle replacement level is precariously low in the US. It takes a minimum of a one-year forecast to gauge how many dairy cows will be born to reach milk production status, and apparently farmers are having a difficult time with all the debt and limited resources hampering them. Because of the US’s red meat addiction, we are currently at best only at minimum replacement, which is really concerning until the nation reduces some of its cattle consumption; otherwise, beef prices will continue to rise…
Well we’re talking about maintaining cows for food at a sustainable level, the US is stupid in all aspects and should not be considered. The rest of the world isnt greedy and fat like Americans.
As far as I’m concerned the US is an isolated dictatorship like NK so their numbers are al over the place depending on who is dear leader
this is one example the sort of nuance was hinting at. cheers
it takes limited resources to breed the living beings youre talking about
Food and grass are also growable
so youre just going to act like you dont understand at all huh
So wait tire saying they aren’t? Or are you still insisting petroleum is renewable? Milk is renewable, gas is finite, so gas should not be cheaper than milk. Thats a pretty easy point
Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.
Healthcare is only for the weak. I am one if the elect; god loves me, so I won’t ever need to think about that.
Tell me about it. Why is cost of gas what we focus on
Because you pay for gas every couple days with your credit card, while you pay for healthcare rarely
Idk if I’m winning or losing as someone that pays for healthcare way more often then gas…
…DAYS?!
i drive to work every day and i refuel like every other month.
#autoorientedinfrastructure
A large portion of US adults don’t understand the difference between simple and compound interest.
Many are living with less than 1 month salary as savings.
This results in a largr portion with neither the mental space nor capability (or both) to worry about 6 months down the line when they have to worry for 6 days down the line
The tv should have always cost more. That’s part of the problem. America drunk on cheap consumer goods.
I disagree. America has heavy subsidies on gas prices.
I can’t believe how cheap TVs are. I think I bought a 22” CRT 25 years ago and it was easily over $200.
E: a CPI check says a $220 monitor in 2000 is $435 today.
They’re cheap because they use extensive tracking to make up the rest of their money
Compare any tv to a monitor of the same size and feature set
Yeah, they’re selling you an ad platform. It won’t be long before they start leaving off the HDMI ports.
Why not?
Oil is a product manufactured by millions of years of stratified organic stuffs and high pressures, it is a concentrate of energy.
TV is not as useful.
Lol you can see where the “I did that” sticker used to be…
Wonder if it was an old Biden version or a new Trump version.
Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won’t be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it’s gone.
Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that’s left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it’s not even worth the energy to extract.
There are people who believe the earth regenerates and creates more petroleum… In essence it will never run out
There’s probably a step g correlation to flat earthers
It will! Just not within human life spans that’s my answer usually. Alot of their thoughts are grounded in something real. Its easier then telling them they are flat out wrong usually.
Unless it’s the flat earthers
It probably won’t to my understanding. Most fossil fuels are from large organic material deposits (usually from plants) underwater or in low oxygen environments where they aren’t disturbed/don’t decompose. Basically the conditions for fossil fuels to be remade don’t exist anymore so we really aren’t getting any more
There’s definitely location on earth where they will get generate again. Plus climate change only really means the extinction of all human life as we know it. Everything else will carry on, it’s not the first large level extinction event.
The conditions that created it are likely to arise again. Most oil deposits are actually from innumerable numbers of planktonic life that built up on the ocean floor. Coal is from plant matter though.
Point is its generally easier to redirect then reprogram people, with enough nudges they’ll start to see they are being lied to, or at least will know not to bother you with that specific subject anymore
High fuel prices is a good thing and a 32" TV shouldn’t be that cheap.
It is when you offshore all your jobs and import from slave labor countries, all while using a currency that is able to be printed from thin air effectively taxing the world because it’s a reserve currency.
Are you paying for the cheap tv by bringing hostile spywear into your home?
It’s possible not, I suppose.
I neither, can I pay double for the Tv without the poorly named smartness in it?
I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?
Your bike has zero impact on the environment. Good for you
The metals used in the frame and battery magically floated down from heaven. Also the tires and plastic parts weren’t used from petroleum …not at all
Not zero, but dwarfed by a car. An E-bike is hands down way more eco-friendly option
The production impact should be still smaller than the production of a motorbike
There was a recent article detailing how if you put a lot of miles on your ebike you’ll need to replace the battery and it’s surprisingly expensive.
But I agree with the other downvoters that you can’t just say “but bad thing” you have to put them into perspective. And your parent comment didn’t claim ebikes are perfect or even good. Just that they literally don’t use gas.
Now think about solar power.
You guys subsidize milk, you should be paying more. And our milk is better quality and organic, Thats why we refuse to buy the crap from the US
I doubt twenty years of ag gag laws have been kind to the industry that was partly responsible for the formation of the FDA.
I’m really unenthused by meat and dairy in the States.
Do… do you put milk in your car?
Are you okay, buddy?
Yeah I drive a 2010 Frosted Flakes
One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.
Unless your gas pump has ads, or it’s a non-smart tv
I meant post purchase, i.e. fuel once it gets in your tank and the TV once you get it home, but yeah, you’re right too.
Yes, I’ve heard, but you might still have a choice to fill up at one without ads, whereas with a TV like this you buy it and you’re set with ads for the time you have it.
