If you drive normally I’ll let you pass. But if you’re up in my ass flashing highbeams when I’m still overtaking? Grab a snack buddy cause we’re going nowhere and we’re not going there fast either.
Edit: Some salty fucks in here dogpiling a silly comment on the internets. Sure is reddit in here
Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
Texas law enforcement generally takes a common-sense approach to hazard enforcement. Officers focus on genuinely dangerous driving, not technical violations of hazard rules… Texas gives drivers wide latitude on hazard use, but using them without any valid safety reason can still draw attention.
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
State laws use various terms including “hazard warning lights,” “emergency flashers,” “four-way flashers,” and simply “flashers.”
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
There’s “don’t dress like you want to be assaulted” and then there’s “don’t look up your local sex offender registry, find the most violent rapist you can, drink a handle of vodka and eat three edibles, break into their house when they’re away, and tie yourself nude to their bed.”
I absolutely don’t blame rape victims for their rape, at least in any sane scenario. But if someone did the latter, yeah, I’m sorry, I’m going to say they asked for it. If someone literally goes out of their way to deliberately get raped, well then at that point it’s consensual sex, not rape.
Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
I think the story goes that the ambulance was driving towards a car containing the patient, and the car containing the patient was also driving towards the ambulance.
You don’t know that they didn’t use emergency lights, and it ultimately doesn’t matter either way. Someone died a preventable death because of people like you trying to police others’ behaviour.
No one here remembers them saying this in the post it seems, and no that death didn’t happen because someone wouldn’t get over. I’m not policing anyones actions here any more than saying “there is a standard procedure for this that could’ve also impacted the death.” Fwiw that person in the example pic here doesn’t have enough clearance to switch lanes at 70+ mph safely, which would be 6+ cat lengths and would be risking lives moving over.
I had a buddy who would time his driving so that he could go through green lights at full speed. All well and good, and perfectly legal, but none of that helped him recover when he T-boned the guy who ran a red light. Sometimes a little prudence goes a long way, even if you’re in the right.
That’s why I stay out of the passing lane unless I’m passing. I was saying it’s not just polite, but also the law. And it keeps crazy people from weaving and passing on the right, which endangers people.
What I’m hearing is you require other drivers to drive deferentially in such a way that caters to your ego in order for you to drive safely and avoid conflicts, otherwise you drive like a sociopath for sport?
My wife is an anxious passenger. I usually set the adaptive cruise control to whatever matches prevailing traffic, and stay in the outermost lane unless I have to pass someone. Most of my driving is honestly trying to make sure if someone does something stupid, I’m reacting to it in a calm way.
A lot of people have big feels about controlling the road.
The adaptive cruise control is interesting - if I’m a few hundred feet behind someone long enough for it to “lock in”, I know their speed because my car is pacing them.
It’s fascinating to see people suddenly accelerate after miles of the same speed on a relatively empty road because I moved into the passing lane, or (conversely) slow down because they’re alongside a slow vehicle and not in danger of being under-passed by another driver. The ego and herd mentality is something to behold.
It’s fascinating to see people suddenly accelerate after miles of the same speed on a relatively empty road because I moved into the passing lane, or (conversely) slow down because they’re alongside a slow vehicle and not in danger of being under-passed by another driver.
This is why if I’m on a road with one lane in each direction, when I pass, I PASS. Nothing is more terrifying than when someone takes their sweet time passing, barely going faster than the car in the lane next to them. Plus then you have to deal with the people like you’re describing. They don’t want to go as fast as you, but they do want to prevent you from passing them.
What I’ve found is that this type of passive aggressive driver is also a coward. Let’s say they’re going 60 and I want to go 65. I come up behind them to pass. If I try to pass at 65, there’s a good chance they’ll increase their speed to 65 in order to prevent me from passing them.
I don’t give them the opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, when you’re passing in a lane of opposing traffic, speed limits don’t exist. If I’m risking a head-on collision, I want to get in and out of that lane as fast as possible. So instead of going 65 while passing, I’ll rocket up to 85 and rapidly pass them. The passive aggressive assholes are cowards and won’t speed up that much to prevent you from passing. So I rocket up to 85, get the passing over with before they can do anything about it, and then slow down to the speed I actually want to travel at. By that point, the slowpoke is well in the rear view mirror. They don’t tend to speed back up either. By then their monkey brain just sees you as another car on the road, far away from them, not a challenge to their ego.
Oh, sorry. Comment snuck up on you too fast? Put you ill at ease while you thought you were the only person on the internet?
What are you gonna do, claim personal offense and use that as justification to return the offense ten-fold?
There is another option. It’s minding your business.
We can’t know the justifications or dispositions of others, but we can choose not to pick fights with strangers. In fact: choosing to avoid confrontation could save a life! Someone else’s, or even your own - you don’t know who you’re messing with on the road. 🌈💫
If you drive normally I’ll let you pass. But if you’re up in my ass flashing highbeams when I’m still overtaking? Grab a snack buddy cause we’re going nowhere and we’re not going there fast either.
Edit: Some salty fucks in here dogpiling a silly comment on the internets. Sure is reddit in here
Though I read a story (I think on lemmy, though it’s been a while) of someone trying to meet an ambulance in the middle of nowhere (Texas, I want to say?) as their friend was bleeding out, basically.
A lady did what you describe and it took critical time away. The friend ended up dying just before they met the emts.
Not everyone who looks like they are a dick, are one.
Thats what emergency flashers are for.
Emergency flashers… on your typical like Nissan Altima (or whatever)?
The two vehicles were headed to a central meeting point to save critical time, in the actual middle of nowhere.
Yes, it’s the red triangle button, give it a shot sometime!
That’s not an ‘emergency flasher’ button, it’s the hazards, and it’s for when you’re broken down or crashed, or (illegally) stack your home depot run 17 pallets high.
I’m a first responder (at least, used to be) and that button is known in the states as the ‘park wherever you want’ button and nothing else.
Fun fact, using the hazard indicators while moving on a public road can be a cited offense. But you have fun going wee-woo and playing pretend emergency man. Maybe lose the snappy attitude though, it’s indicative of your age and knowledge.
https://legaloverview.com/is-it-illegal-to-drive-with-hazards-on/
Here’s a article about the differences, goes into detail about Texas
I am fairly certain a person bleeding to death would be a common-sense usage due to driving well above the speed limit to get help.
My comment was snarky because, as you said, people in the states don’t use them for anything but parking illegally and many don’t know what it’s for. I have had to explain what it’s for to people decades older. Again from the article:
I was raised on Emergency Flashers, you obviously weren’t, and thats fine, but don’t try talking me down because you think you’re right without checking first. Lots of people coming in here with an unlinked story that, tbh, sounds extremely far fetched to justify someone not switching lanes as fast as the person most certainly speeding wants gets on my nerves real quick.
Yeah if they aren’t using the emergency lights then it means there’s no emergency. Pretty sure the first comment was talking about normal road users anyway…
Anecdotes aren’t data.
Ride my ass so closely that you put me in danger, and I’m taking my time.
“Instead of letting the dangerous driver past me and away from me I am making the situation worse by attempting to intervene”
Just move the fuck over and don’t subject everyone to this bs. My husband does this and twice now these psychos acted erratically and followed us home. How the fuck is it worth it? Move over let them pass and get pulled over if it’s that bad.
What I’m hearing is “don’t dress like that if you don’t want to get assaulted”. Is that right?
I’m going to move over. But if you’re up my ass then I need to have much farther stopping distance from the car in front of me, to account for the decrease in response time from the follower. Which means I can’t pass as quickly or get over as fast.
There’s “don’t dress like you want to be assaulted” and then there’s “don’t look up your local sex offender registry, find the most violent rapist you can, drink a handle of vodka and eat three edibles, break into their house when they’re away, and tie yourself nude to their bed.”
I absolutely don’t blame rape victims for their rape, at least in any sane scenario. But if someone did the latter, yeah, I’m sorry, I’m going to say they asked for it. If someone literally goes out of their way to deliberately get raped, well then at that point it’s consensual sex, not rape.
‘data points aren’t data’
Okay but they’re not. Right? Data points by themselves aren’t data. That’s why they have a different name.
If you look at one data point, then everyone with red hair is a billionaire because I saw one once.
?
Anecdotes aren’t data points either. For data points to become useful data they have to be standardised across parameters to create valid correlations. Anecdotes are not that.
Shit happens and sometimes you won’t be there for it and that’s just life. It’s not a justification to put everyone else on the road in danger.
Easy to say when it’s not you bleeding out, but alright fam
If you do what the comment describes it’s fine. But if you do it to an ambulance you deserve to be shot as I do think we can all agree there is a distinct difference between any regular car and an ambulance.
I think the story goes that the ambulance was driving towards a car containing the patient, and the car containing the patient was also driving towards the ambulance.
It’s tragic but that is an infrastructure failure more than anything else.
I’m my tiny country we have trauma helicopters for stuff like that. You should never get into your own car with stuff like that.
Secondly how did it is to have a alarm line operator tell you to get into your own car to meet the ambulance half way. How did that work?
In rural areas they Will communicate with both of you.
Once again, move the fuck over. You aren’t the police.
Way to miss my point. Have better ambulance coverage.
Two things can be true: the ambulance coverage should be better and you aren’t the traffic police, you don’t know their situation, move the fuck over.
Guess which one you have more control over.
That makes more sense. Thanks
Then it’s an educational failure because they didn’t use emergency lights.
You don’t know that they didn’t use emergency lights, and it ultimately doesn’t matter either way. Someone died a preventable death because of people like you trying to police others’ behaviour.
Edit: made my comment a little less mean
No one here remembers them saying this in the post it seems, and no that death didn’t happen because someone wouldn’t get over. I’m not policing anyones actions here any more than saying “there is a standard procedure for this that could’ve also impacted the death.” Fwiw that person in the example pic here doesn’t have enough clearance to switch lanes at 70+ mph safely, which would be 6+ cat lengths and would be risking lives moving over.
The examine pic needs to fit on their back tailgate.
No, they don’t really need it at all
Yeah, play chicken with a maniac driving a 2 ton vehicle. Good luck.
Driving at the speed limit is not ‘playing chicken’
‘Legally right’ means dick to these people.
Let them pass lest they do something reckless and take you with them in the process.
This sign is legally binding.
I had a buddy who would time his driving so that he could go through green lights at full speed. All well and good, and perfectly legal, but none of that helped him recover when he T-boned the guy who ran a red light. Sometimes a little prudence goes a long way, even if you’re in the right.
That’s why I stay out of the passing lane unless I’m passing. I was saying it’s not just polite, but also the law. And it keeps crazy people from weaving and passing on the right, which endangers people.
If you’re that car in the first place, you’re blocking traffic. Get the fuck out of the way.
What I’m hearing is you require other drivers to drive deferentially in such a way that caters to your ego in order for you to drive safely and avoid conflicts, otherwise you drive like a sociopath for sport?
Someone hit a nerve
I must have.
My wife is an anxious passenger. I usually set the adaptive cruise control to whatever matches prevailing traffic, and stay in the outermost lane unless I have to pass someone. Most of my driving is honestly trying to make sure if someone does something stupid, I’m reacting to it in a calm way.
A lot of people have big feels about controlling the road.
The adaptive cruise control is interesting - if I’m a few hundred feet behind someone long enough for it to “lock in”, I know their speed because my car is pacing them.
It’s fascinating to see people suddenly accelerate after miles of the same speed on a relatively empty road because I moved into the passing lane, or (conversely) slow down because they’re alongside a slow vehicle and not in danger of being under-passed by another driver. The ego and herd mentality is something to behold.
This is why if I’m on a road with one lane in each direction, when I pass, I PASS. Nothing is more terrifying than when someone takes their sweet time passing, barely going faster than the car in the lane next to them. Plus then you have to deal with the people like you’re describing. They don’t want to go as fast as you, but they do want to prevent you from passing them.
What I’ve found is that this type of passive aggressive driver is also a coward. Let’s say they’re going 60 and I want to go 65. I come up behind them to pass. If I try to pass at 65, there’s a good chance they’ll increase their speed to 65 in order to prevent me from passing them.
I don’t give them the opportunity. As far as I’m concerned, when you’re passing in a lane of opposing traffic, speed limits don’t exist. If I’m risking a head-on collision, I want to get in and out of that lane as fast as possible. So instead of going 65 while passing, I’ll rocket up to 85 and rapidly pass them. The passive aggressive assholes are cowards and won’t speed up that much to prevent you from passing. So I rocket up to 85, get the passing over with before they can do anything about it, and then slow down to the speed I actually want to travel at. By that point, the slowpoke is well in the rear view mirror. They don’t tend to speed back up either. By then their monkey brain just sees you as another car on the road, far away from them, not a challenge to their ego.
Jesus fucking christ calm down you lunatic
Oh, sorry. Comment snuck up on you too fast? Put you ill at ease while you thought you were the only person on the internet?
What are you gonna do, claim personal offense and use that as justification to return the offense ten-fold?
There is another option. It’s minding your business.
We can’t know the justifications or dispositions of others, but we can choose not to pick fights with strangers. In fact: choosing to avoid confrontation could save a life! Someone else’s, or even your own - you don’t know who you’re messing with on the road. 🌈💫
Keep sniffing your own farts bro👍
No response of substance.
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