• RotatingParts@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    … and the article doesn’t even say what speed over a speed limit qualifies as a “super speeder” event.

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    4 days ago

    if you have ever driven on the tollways in and around chicago - you know this is necessary.

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    Sounds like it’s an alternative to license suspending so that you don’t cripple lower income people by revoking transportation.

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      As one of those “lower income” people… I’ve never really been a speedster on the road…

      Excess speed eats into fuel efficiency - big time.

      Who’s blowing gas money like a sailor on shore leave with fuel as expensive as it is right now? Morons, that’s who.

      Fuck that.

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        No, it is an entertainment expense to me and therefore not moronic. Just because you cannot afford it, does not mean others cannot.

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          “Entertainment” that can get your right to drive removed is pretty fucking lame dude.

          Will it be “fun” that day you lose control of the car and hit someone else and possibly kill them or yourself? Never say never, sunshine. Fate’s a cunt like that.

          One of my high school classmates who like to drive fast, lost control through the center of town. Buddy in the back seat, whom I worked with a few years later, said the EMTs pulled him out of the car in two pieces… top and bottom half.

          Go for it kid.

          • sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
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            The speeding for entertainment moron is what the license suspending vs hardware restriction is for

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    4 days ago

    Is anybody else noticing there’s an awful lot of these news articles about technology being set up to take away our ability to make choices?

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      I can see why people may be worried about these. But if your choices consist of blatant disregard for other people’s lives, and actively putting them at risk, then… yeah, maybe you shouldn’t have the ability to make them.

      Not speaking to you directly. Just in general.

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        Oh don’t get me wrong I agree with it in principle for that circumstance. The problem is these things never stay in those conditions. Utilization creeps. It starts with let’s protect the children let’s protect the innocent, and pretty soon nobody can do what they want anymore.

        Besides, that’s what the laws are for and they should have their license revoked or they go to jail.

        Put another way, as Ben Franklin once said, those who would trade freedom for safety deserve neither.

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          This particular case seems to me like putting a breathalyzer in an impaired driver’s car. These aren’t toys, they’re dangerous machines that we’re doing nothing about being built more dangerous by the year. If someone egregiously breaks the law and gets a limiter as punishment I’m okay with it like I’m okay with a breathalyzer.

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        Speeding tickets are subjective and the limit within a year is two. Just being in a spot where you drive by police makes you infinitely more likely to become a super speeder, and that doesn’t even get into the ways this could be used maliciously.

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            The measurement/documentation of the speed. Many tickets are issued based off a police officers feelings on the alleged offender’s speed, not an accurate measurement.

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      As someone who doesn’t even look at his speedo, I don’t like it but it’s technically the law. But I do think there are other driving laws that are more important they don’t ever enforce. Like driving in the left lane on the interstate or highway for 46 fucking miles ect.

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    Why do we make street legal cars that can even go 90? I once went 155 on a Yamaha R6. Why can we buy stuff that can even go that fast? Seems like a huge waste tbh.

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      Can’t possibly limit the speed of cars.

      Ebikes though, fuck your top speed. The government decides

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      Because there are a lot of racetracks in the world, and a few people who take their cars and bikes to them

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        I get that, but my 2006 minivan can do 110…

        Absolutely no need for that. Lol

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          When I bought a Porsche Cayman five years ago I took it to a racing school at a track to take high performance driver education with it. Which was a blast and I recommend everyone who can afford to do so to do so, even if its just renting the school’s cars, it’s useful education to have even for regular defensive driving

          But more to the point: here I and my husband were doing all the various exercises in our well equipped sports car, and someone brought their Dodge Caravan and was absolutely tearing it up out there. Going HARD once we got to actual lapping, and keeping a shocking amount of speed compared to all the other sports cars there.

          Dude was the coolest, most badass mofo there in my opinion. And he genuinely learned a LOT about where his minivan’s limits were, most certainly leaving a more skilled driver than when he arrived that morning

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            On old friend I haven’t been in touch with for years used to race a slightly souped-up Jetta. The air intake was a crucial upgrade. Anyway she did some serious ice lake racing in Massachusetts back in the day. Any reasonably well built vehicle can do some amazing stuff in the right hands with simple upgrades.

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              I do not understand how those limiters work, but if It works on limiting power and torque, then You may have some difficulty getting up a very steep hill like one found in the rockies.

              My ego is perfectly capable of surviving being wrong.

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                They cut out fuel when you reach max speed. They don’t limit power or acceleration below top speed. They only limit top speed. They of course don’t shut down the engine. Just make it stop accelerating. Probably has more to do with fuel mixture, not literally cutting whole fuel off.

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                  Good to know. Still don’t like it. Another step in taking away freedom of individuals and mentally neutering an entire population.

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            Are you implying that you need to get a 150mph running start to make it to the top?

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              I am Implying that you need a certain amount of power to be able to climb a mountain like that. And You may not have that much power if the engine Is limited that much. I remember going up those mountains in a Datsun 210. Brutal.

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                Nobody said anything about power limiters. You know that power and speed aren’t the same thing right?

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                  I see you are intent on either making me appear or feel stupid. I see your troll, and raise it with “don’t give a fuck”.

                  Have a nice day.

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            To be fair a lot of non-performance cars were limited to 110 through the 90s and 2000s. Not sure when they changed it, but I had a 91 miata, limited at 110. Ford probe, 110. Nissan sentra, yeah 110.

            None of those cars were terribly fun to drive at that speed. Floaty, white kunckle ride. Any bump and it would have ended in blood.

            There really isn’t much of a reason for anything more. As an adult who speeds all the time at 25+ I would not find any reason to crack 100. 90-95 is at the far end for me. Usually 80-85 on open roads.

            Over 100 and even in a good car with good tires, brakes and suspension, if something happens, you have so little time to react and you’re already at the limits of what your car can do. Do that in a crapheap with worn tires, brakes, suspension and you’re fucked if you hit a rough section of road.

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        Salt flats also exist and people driver there over 1000 km/h. Does that mean cars with jet engines should be street legal? How else will they get there?

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      Why not? What if I REALLY have to poop and won’t make it home in time unless I double the speed limit? What if my arborist friend got a life threatening injury from a chainsaw and needed to get to a hospital faster than an ambulance can even get to the scene of the incident? What if we’re over populated and I think we should peel all the warning labels off and let the population issue correct itself?

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      Why limit it? We have plenty of highways where that’s a perfectly acceptable speed. Very long, very straight, and no turning traffic.

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      I think it’s because car and motor brains are a big voting block. If you try to enforce some common sense rules like mandatory speed limiting devices or noise limits they will flip out. I don’t have another explanation. I don’t think race cars and custom exhausts are big enough business to successfully block this for so long.

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    I wish they could come up with something similar for repeat illegal parkers. I know an asshole who gets $1000 worth of parking tickets a month and doesn’t care because he is rich enough.

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      I forget which country does it but fines are a percent of your annual income or something instead of a flat dollar amount

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        This is exactly what every city should do. If the penalty for breaking the law is a fine then it’s only a law for the poor.

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    The problem I have with this is that many speed limits on Illinois highways as set artificially low at 55. This makes for the “super speeder” even easier to apply to people. The only ones that are going to with with this law are the companies that install and monitor these devices

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    Nah, make all fines relative to net worth. Revoke the license of repeat/excessive offenders.

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    Honestly, fuck people who act recklessly with dangerous machines on public roads. It should just be an automatic, permanent loss of the privilege of driving, but people have tied cars to freedom so deeply that losing your licence for abuse is unthinkable. Not to mention that the entire automobile and oil industries would never allow it.

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    What’s to stop them renting cars? (I haven’t read the article—maybe that’s addressed. Sounds like these people need to just plain lose their licenses.)

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      There’s no money in that, this the government gets $30/month from everyone they hit with it, not to mention kickbacks politicians get, campaign donations and actual bribes.

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    That headline brought forth an image of Judge Dredd putting a chip in somebody’s head that keeps them from ever jaywalking again.

    You will obey the laws, citizen.

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      Sounds like the same invasion as an IID when someone has been drunk driving. Driving is a privilege, not a right and people who treat driving a dangerous machine like playing with a toy should suffer punishment. It’s pretty basic stuff for breaking the law to be followed by a punishment.

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        Fucking people really got propagandised to shit into believing that driving a car is freedom. It’s a privilege, not a right, and abusing a privilege can come with a punishment, like installing an IID for DUIs.