Roger and Lisa were running late. They were employed by Silverstein Properties at the time of the September 11 attacks, working in temporary offices in the North Tower. Sharon also played a role in the family business, with two of his three children serving as executives at the company. Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVKiu9Su6Ls
After almost 25 years now, there are more things we still can learn about that day. Silverstein had signed a 99-year lease for the World Trade Center complex just weeks before the attacks. Silverstein has stated that he typically attended meetings at the World Trade Center every morning. However, on 9/11, he did not go to the office due to a medical appointment. This detail has frequently resurfaced in documentaries, news reports, and online discussions as people revisit the events of that tragic day.
Orrr, hear me out…
It could be anti-billionaire conspiracy theories.
Why do you assume his being jewish is the most important factor here, and not his being a financial oligarch? Are you assuming one implies the other?
Financial oligarchs are a problem regardless of religion or ethnicity. Also, there are lots of non-wealthy jewish people whom I don’t see being the subjects of conspiracy theories.
So why do people assume that the being jewish part is the reason for the criticism? A billionaire is a billionaire.
I wouldn’t bother. I have them tagged as antisemitism/zionism 3, which means they have said something like this multiple times
It might not be if Anonymous_Leaker is to be believed, but generally it’s a safe default assumption. There are FAR fewer conspiracy theories about billionaires who aren’t Jewish. There’s Bill Gates and… I honestly can’t remember anyone else right now. Now who do we have with Jewish heritage that there are conspiracy theories about? The Rothschild family, Larry Fink/BlackRock (but curiously far fewer conspiracy theories about Blackstone which controls its investments more directly and is also run by a Jewish billionaire), George Soros… And let’s not forget “international bankers” (literally a dogwhistle for Jewish people who “run the world”). People don’t want to see Jewish people being rich, they don’t really care about anyone else being rich generally.
It’s also been said that every single Jewish person skipped work that day (untrue). There are a lot of people trying to blame this on Jewish people in general, or Israel at least (to be fair, I wouldn’t put it beyond Israel, but there’s no evidence of massive work skipping by Jewish people at WTC or NYC in general as often claimed).
Yeah, yeah, we get it. QAnon were neonazis and they were resurrecting himmlerian propaganda.
Is that all this is about though? There are plenty of conspiracies involving billionaires. They’re just not “conspiracy theories” because most of them happen to be true.
Trump and all his cronies. Epstein and all his associates. Was Epstein Jewish? I don’t even know. If so, it’s entirely incidental. Except for his involvement with Mossad, of course. But the State of Israel is not the same thing as Jewish heritage.
G.W. Bush’s grandfather was a member of the nazi party and was deeply involved with the Business Plot. I don’t know if they were billionaires, but could it have anything to do with conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11? I don’t know.
Pretending Jewish bankers secretly run the world is anti-semitic and insane, yes, obviously. But that doesn’t detract from the fact that their is a worldwide financial elite. We do live in a capitalist oligarchy, and things have been getting worse by the day for years. So let’s not lose sight of that just because some crackpots want to blame the Jews…
I mean it’s been going on for hundreds of years before QAnon, but sure. Distrust of Jewish people was a staple of medieval Europe lol. I’d completely forgotten QAnon.
We were talking about conspiracy theories before, now you’re talking about conspiracies. They’re related, sure, but the entire point was that Jewish people are automatically targets of conspiracy theories, whereas other rich people aren’t. The fact that you’re bringing out non-jewish rich people’s actual conspiracies, not unfounded conspiracy theories, further reinforces my point.
Well yes, Mossad consists mostly of Jewish people. But in this case it’s irrelevant because he was already a known child sexual abuser.
Yes, but my point is that you only hear the conspiracy theories about the Jewish bankers, not the other ones. BlackRock’s AUM is 14 trillion, Vanguard’s is 12. They do more or less the same thing. Yet BlackRock “controls the entire world” and I’ve NEVER heard anyone say Vanguard controls the entire world.
Now what are we looking at here? A rich Jewish person and the claim that the only day he ever missed breakfast at the window was 9/11. Was it truly the only day? Not according to himself, but a certain type of people are saying it was the only day he ever missed.
When you spread something like this, you’re helping the antisemites more than the anti-rich.
I think you missed my point. The reason they’re not called “conspiracy theories” when we talk about plain old billionaires is because they’re true conspiracies. So pointing out that there aren’t as many conspiracy theories about plain old billionaires is a moot point. We do talk about billionaire conspiracies, they’re just not theories.
Yes, that’s what I said. “entirely incidental.” Meaning there is no direct causation attributable to him being Jewish. I only asked because I genuinely didn’t know if he was and I didn’t want you to say something like “Aha! See, you’re mentioning a Jewish billionaire.” He was a billionaire. His being jewish isn’t what’s relevant. As I stated.
Honestly, if you didn’t make it clear from the context, I wouldn’t have been able to tell you anything about either of those companies or who owns them. If I read some crazy facts about BlackRock being a corrupt trillionaire corporation I’d have a problem with that for being a corrupt trillionaire corporation. If it turns out the CEO happens to be Jewish, then so what? That’s incidental, it doesn’t change anything.
Is that the company that owns something like 80% of rental properties in NYC? Or is that Blackstone?
I really don’t have any opinion about the case mentioned in the post. I don’t know anything about the situation, and I don’t like to pass judgement without knowledge. Being a billionaire, I find that I distrust him by default. Being Jewish doesn’t have anything to do with it. But neither of those things means I’m gonna jump to some conclusion like “it was an inside job and he was in on it.” I simply don’t have the kind of information it would take to claim something like that, and I’m skeptical of anyone who would make that claim without that information. Which is information that obviously doesn’t exist, because if it did then either someone would have been convicted for it or it would have been destroyed. So I don’t exactly lean towards credulity in this kind of thing.
Really the only reason I’m here is to break things down into painstaking detail to clarify points where I think I see people misunderstanding each other rather than disagreeing, leading to an unnecessary amount of hostility
“Why do you assume his being jewish is the most important factor here, and not his being a financial oligarch? Are you assuming one implies the other?”
I can answer that for you.
Because Jimmy is a fucking moron. That probably actually hates Jewish people. Then he tried to take it out on me, not knowing that I am an actual Jewish person. He thought he could just call somebody antisemitic and get away with it.