So Israel break international law and then Starmer asks Iran to just suck it up, saying it will put the ceasefire in jeopardy, ignoring the fact that Israel just assassinated the lead negotiator. What in the bloody fuck?

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    Did he also urge Israel to not kill civilians in Gaza and not to bombard embassies and buildings in other countries?

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    Don’t worry he, and plenty of others before him, have already told Netanyahu the same to which he got the same response.

    YOLO motherfucker 😆.

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      “Hello Mister President, I’m calling to offer you the support of our nation. You’re the victim of an international crime and that’s not okay under any circumstances, the United Kingdom will ensure justice is served via the courts. We want you to know on record that we condemn the continued international crimes and war crimes that Israel continues to perpetrate.”

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        The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

        They are enemies of Britain and we do not support them in anything.

        The Regime in Tehran should be undermined, opposed, attacked wherever possible.

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          The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

          Let’s topple Nazi regime in Tel-Aviv first, before we lecture Iran, shall we?

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            No, they’re a hostile power collaborating with our enemies including Russia and China. The drones used by Russia are purchased from Iran. They are intent on a campaign of genocide against our allies in Israel and have become a destabilising force across the wider Middle East, causing Lebanon and Yemen to become failed states.

            This juvenile self-loathing anti-Westernism is honestly so boring at this point.

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              The only state you listed committing genocide is Israel which has caused nothing but instability in the Middle East since its founding, including the problems in Lebanon which, if you knew your history, was catalysed by Palestinian refugees fleeing the Nakba and Black September as well as the 1982 Israel invasion, the massacres at Sabra and Shatila and subsequent occupation of the South.

              Since when is China our enemy? Your right wing stereotypes lack nuance.

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        3 months ago

        Since you agree with the UK government that it’s best to settle this through the international systems of diplomacy and justice, would it be fair to say you also agree that Iran shouldn’t respond by attacking Israel?

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          I agree that Starmer should first and foremost condemn Israel and bring them to justice and that should be the initial position.

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            I agree Israel should face international justice, so both you and I, and Starmer, are on the same page, there. If Iran does launch some kind of attack on Israel, I think that will delay any justice, while worsening the situation in Gaza and the Middle East (by which I mean, to be clear, lots of people will die, which is the last thing we want). So to me it seems fair to try and persuade everyone involved to solve this diplomatically, which is what Starmer is asking Iran and Israel to do:

            [Starmer] called on all parties to “de-escalate and avoid further regional confrontation”

            Naturally while speaking to Iran, he’s focusing on Iran’s choices, but it’s consistent with his current position calling on Israel to agree to negotiate a ceasefire and allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

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              out of interest could you link to a time you’ve called for israel to face international justice outside the context of “iran should also face international justice”?

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                Can you arbitrarily provide me with evidence of what you think about any given thing with the precise context I think is important? Because, if not, I don’t see why you’d expect this of anyone else.

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                  any given thing

                  literally the thing we’re talking about

                  the precise context I think is important

                  literally any context other than this specific one

                   

                  if you only ever bring up how israel needs to face international justice in the context of iran facing international justice, it kind of sounds like you don’t really care about israel facing international justice

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      It’s more please don’t start war in the middle East. I’m sure they will anyway, but we can always ask them not to.