I don’t want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed
IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it’s discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.
I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it’s within someone’s limits.
I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It’s hard to even imagine someone posting “always be there for your man in a time of crisis” with the woman going down on the guy.
I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t really mind it the other way around as long as there’s no implied use of force or manipulation.
Feel free to reverse the genders & post this on twitter then. Getting banned from the internet speedrun any%
Twitter = the internet
I believe “consenting” is key here.
The reason why it’s taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.
Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I’ve seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.
part of the joke is the reversal of the stereotype.
breaking stereotypes = good
enforcing stereotypes = badYes, I suppose if you ignore every single bit of the last few hundred years worth of context, it would be hard to understand why people might be ok with this, but not necessarily the reverse.
Fortunately that context is available to you, so what I have trouble understanding is why you’re not accounting for that. Maybe you could elaborate, or perhaps do some perspective taking on why historically oppressed groups have certain sensitivities that privileged groups do not have. You might even come to realize that treating everyone exactly the same after not doing so for a very long time doesn’t come across as terribly fair. Because, you know, it isn’t.
You’ve conceded my point that it would be insensitive if we reversed the genders. So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.
And here I’m going to respectfully disagree. I do not agree with your claim that being a part of a more historically oppressed group comes with a different set of standards for behavior. This is like saying its fine for obese people to make fun of skinny people–but not vice versa–because the obese people have more often been marginalized in society. We wouldn’t accept that reasoning in the case of body type and we also shouldn’t accept it in the case of gender.
I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.
Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.
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Yes i imagined it, very nice. Whats the next step?
I love you and I’m saving this.
What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender
Nothing wrong with a consenting partner
Yes, but not quite the point I was making
I would be there for my lady…
If i had one!
I feel you brother
Panel 3: titty eye contact, he accepts his fate lol
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What the hell is wrong with people in this comment section? yeah if the genders were reversed blah blah blah be pragmatic and enjoy that pussy ffs.
My blocklist has grown by leaps and bounds though, so there’s that.
Whatever scant humor this comic possessed, has been irretrievably destroyed by the pedants in the comments.
Aren’t memes supposed to be funny? This just looks like a shitty Tumblr post.
Haha 450 up 55 down, so 8 times as many people think its funny then dont.
Haha 3 times as many people dislike this comment
Wait, we can see the upvote / downvote ratio?
Sync for Lemmy does shows it
Some apps show it. Jebroa does, for example
Jebroa sounds like a really muscular type of mouse lol
Spoiler
A bit like the muscular mouse in demon slayer
I also love being there for my girlfriend to tie her shoe laces!
Wholesome.
As long as the shoes don’t smell…
More importantly. Does that guy have a beard or is that just part of his hair?
Bonk
While we’re on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.
She comes first
Her guide to going down
I’m sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don’t assume you know what You’re doing. Read and make the world a better place.
Gross
I think I have to poop
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Seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions. You see sexual abuse, I see four frames that could be me and my wife. In either role.
It’s a four panel comic. Why you would choose to decide that consent is absent, and also decide that everyone else has to feel the same way, is beyond me.
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That’s all well and good, but there’s no reason except your own baggage to apply that to this comic.
The more I read your replies, the more I think this is really about your own negative feelings towards women, more than a legitimate concern regarding sexual abuse against men.
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Did I use the word incel?
But hey, if that keeps happening to you, maybe don’t keep saying things an incel would.
if women choose to pull off these nasty tricks.
We’re all individual people in the end, it’s not a team sport.
Good day, Sir.
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It’s not that serious bro
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So you aren’t angry about the comic, you are angry about how you speculate people would react if it were a different comic.
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I don’t think it’s manipulative to suggest that you should wait for that actual comic to exist, and then argue with the people reacting that way, instead of manufacturing an assumption that no consent exists here, and then being upset that everyone else doesn’t also pretend that’s a factual representation of the comic.
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My only complaint is that you seem adamant that only you have the correct interpretation of this simple comic. If you said “wow that comic seems like this” to me, without taking it to the level of “and every single other person needs to interpret it the same way” we’d be having no discussion.
We’re about 30 secs from having no discussion anyway.
Probably because there is much less likelihood that the male is being physically forced to do this.
Heck, if you want to go into who in society is typically in roles of power, there’s also much less chance of the guy being coerced to do this by power dynamics.
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That doesn’t address my response at all - are you in agreement with it?
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Which of my statements do you disagree with?
Do you think men aren’t likely to be physically forced into giving head by a woman?
Do you think men aren’t likely to be forced into giving head to a woman by power dynamics?
I noticed that you’re conflating what is portrayed in this meme with being groped or touched.
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That’s a big wall of text that doesn’t answer my questions - can you answer them directly? You can provide as much context as you feel necessary to explain your yes or no answer, but please provide a yes or no answer so I fully understand where you stand.
Rape jokes, how funny and endearing.
