Apple’s new iPhone 15 is an underwhelming ‘slap in the face,’ say disappointed fans::Apple unveiled its new iPhone 15 models this week, and some fans say they lack innovation.
“New iphone sucks”, says fans while standing in line at the store the night before the launch.
Absolutely this, we made them this big. Well, some of you lot not me. Android 4 life!
Android 4 is a pretty old version, try and update to 13
I cringed when I thought about how insecure this user’s device is.
Fuck yeah, android ftw
And this is why Lemmy is absolutely less about “techy people who know security” and more about people who just want everything to be free for some damn reason.
I think most people want to be able to afford health, home, and happiness if they are working a full-time job in the US. Not sure how that gets confused with free. I mean, I understand why, just more boot licking of capital over labor.
Have those lines died?
I haven’t heard of anyone doing this in a long time.
What’s funny is this is the biggest update in years. The action button and USB C by themselves are a much bigger difference than last year was. Base models also got dynamic island. Smaller bezels, rounded edges, new colors. I dk how much more could change visually besides those things anyway?
The pros also have 3nm, armv9, wifi 6e, thread connectivity, new cellular bands, ai 5g modem, ray tracing, more ram, Qi2, 10 gbps port, increased repairability, titanium. 5x zoom on the Pro Max.
I think the problem that people are picking up on is that the base model is turning into a budget version of the previous year’s pro model. If you want newer tech you are forced to pay over $1,000 now. Before they had the same internals as the pros.
correct me if I’m wrong, but literally the first 3nm computing devices to land in consumer’s greedy paws. 12-atom wide transistors. what a SLAP IN THE FACE
WHERE ARE MY 11-ATOM TRANSISTORS?? HOW CAN YOU SLAP?!!
3nm does not refer to the size. It refers to performance
3nm refers to the smallest possible feature size - the transistor would be bigger than this.
It can correlate with performance, but it is not performance.
there is no 3nm feature on a 3nm transistor, that’s wrong too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_nm_process the gate pitch is 48nm, metal pitch is 24nm
How is USB C a big deal?
Because Apple were slow to implement the standard
Because people lost their shit when the iPhone moved from the 30 pin to the lightning.
Apple significantly helped develop USB-C. They were always going to move to it eventually, and have been staying with the Mac and the iPads.
People buy a LOT more accessories for iPhones though that a port change obsoletes. You see videos now about how many of your accessories you’re going to have to rebuy or buy an adapter for.
It’s not a minor change at all. They said 10 years for lightning when they introduced it, and went exactly 10 years.
I’m so happy iPhone is now USB C. My partner and I have had their mother on road trips with us so we’ve had to have a mix of USB C and lightning cords. It’ll be nice to not have to look at the end of the cable to see which Belkin white cable it is
I wish that USB-C would have been just like a bigger lightning port to handle usb 3 and higher. I like the form factor of lightning better than C.
It’s a more robust connector having the pins protected in the port than having a weak little piece sticking out in the middle. I’ve had a few USB-C ports break on me on the device because they cheaped out. My galaxy S9, my Pixel 4, and my pixel buds all had the port on the phone get wonky and wouldn’t charge from any cable.
I think “reluctant” is the word
It’s not that USB C is amazing, but that it is a big change for iphones. Especially compared to the past couple of years where they changed even less.
So what the fuck do you all want? It’s a phone. All the innovations that could be crammed into a candybar-style phone have pretty much been done.
If you want real innovation that means a return to the early 2000s when there were tons of different form factors in the market. Sliders, flips, phones with full keyboards, etc. But that means you either need The Only Phone Manufacturer to produce more than one product line of phones, or it means you need to consider other options.
There’s a LITTLE innovation happening- Samsung and Google are both using the new flexible OLED panels to make flipbook-style phones that look pretty cool. Motorola has one too that’s a flip phone style gadget, kinda square when closed but flips open to be a standard phone size. Sadly I don’t see any real contenders with a physical keyboard.
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I’m also not convinced the new flip phones are the new way forward and not just a gimmick. Like we got a few years of rapid flatscreen TV development, and after it started to stall manufacturers tried to push it the 3D route, but it never caught on.
I don’t want or need innovation in my phone or TV.
Personally, I would like to see miniaturization become the the trend again.
I haven’t been interested in a new release since phablets became the standard. I don’t need my phone to replace my PC. It just needs to be able to run a web-search in a pinch.
I was really hoping the Apple Watch was going to be the next leap forward, but they were very careful about making sure most people didn’t replace their phones with them.
Interesting. Personally I was planning to buy a phablet for my next phone but they’ve gone out of style it seems and been replaced with folding phones.
I would be interesting to see something with a rolled up slide out display like the Global communicator from Earth: Final Conflict, basically a slim stick of a phone with a larger display rolled up inside that can be pulled out as much as necessary for the desired screen size.
Sci-fi phones are the best. I like the slide ones alright, but I was always a huge fan of the mid-air projections. Seems like we are decent way off from either right now.
Also, I keep hoping we get a short term pair of glasses or ultra light weight VR/AR goggles before we figure out projection anywhere tech.
Very cool idea. Yeah real holographic projection is still a ways off, especially from a portable emitter. AR however is much closer. There’s an increasing focus on AR tech and making it smaller and cheaper- I saw a glasses the other day for $400 that projects a real 1080p screen onto your field of view and can talk to a phone. That stuff will only get better. The key is making it lightweight, have a long battery life, and fashionable. You also need some kind of separate input device, if you assume the phone remains in the pocket as a compute module. Or for those willing to accept a larger watch, perhaps the watch becomes the phone rather than an accessory to one. There’s of course issues of size, weight, battery life, etc; but as tech improves those will get better. And in theory, the main reason you don’t have the watch as the main phone is lack of screen size; if an external AR display was common that problem goes away.
perhaps the watch becomes the phone rather than an accessory to one.
I was hoping for something like this when the Apple Watch came out, but they were clearly very against the idea.
Screen and battery weren’t there for it. Still aren’t I don’t think unless you significantly increase the size of the watch to either be a real hockey puck, or more likely stretch it out to be both thicker (probably about 1/2" to 3/4" thick) and wider (I’m thinking 3-4") it’s gonna be an option anytime soon.
more likely stretch it out to be both thicker and wider
I think there would be a large market for a wide device that needed two wrist straps to hold it in place. Hard to tell sometimes though. It would either become super trendy or only for super nerds. Either way, I would probably scoop it up.
In any case, I am pretty sure the phone companies want us to have a watch also, not instead, and will suppress any development that changes that mentality.
I’ve no interest in a flip phone. Why? Why is my option a foldable screen, but no head phone jack? That’s not something I want, that’s something I need.
Yeah I agree. It seems brain dead- you’re making a $1200 book-flip phone that opens up like a laptop to a giant screen, so you have tons of space for ports, and you can’t re-add the headphone jack? Seems overly focused on profits rather than usability.
Look up Pro 1X
Perfect example of the problem.
CPU was lower-mid-range back in 2020, will be horribly out of date now. No 5G. No wireless charging. No detail on which Android version(s) it supports.
You’re so right.
I miss the days where the new phone came out and it had five brand new amazing features, but phone design has pretty much been perfected now and the only room for innovation is going to be on the software side of the UI and a better camera.
It’s absolutely not worth paying $1000+ for the latest flagship anymore and it hasn’t been for years. Buy a $300 phone that came out a couple years ago, it’s the same thing.
Or, just buy a 2 year old flagship for $300.
phone design has pretty much been perfected now and the only room for innovation is going to be on the software side of the UI and a better camera.
Strong disagree.
Phone design in one form factor has been mostly perfected, but even there room for innovation exists. More ports, more features- remember how the early Galaxy phones had IR blasters and headphone jacks? That could make a comeback. Or maybe make the phone 2mm thicker and put a battery that will last for days. Or make the phone 5mm thicker and put rubber padding around it so it’s indestructible even without a case. Or do like the old Compaq iPaq and make dockable modules that add significant functionality (week long battery, small projector, full HDMI/USB suite, etc).There’s a bit of innovation happening with other form factors- foldable screens are being used in the most boring and basic ways possible. I want to see something more like the Global Communicator from Earth: Final Conflict- little stick of a device that has a pull out video screen that can be pulled out to various sizes.
I think there IS room in the market for innovation, it just requires companies that are willing to a. take the risk and b. commit to better software support than Samsung.
“I’ll never leave Apple but the iPhone 11-15 are all the same exact phones,” said one user in a post on X, formerly Twitter.
I’m getting serious
vibes here
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I never used an iPhone. Got one from work but put it in a drawer and kept using my Android.
Magsafe? What does it change? A short google sounds like it’s NFC with magnets. What’s so special about it?
I’m using a pixel 5 with grapheneOS. Battery lasts for two days easy and is 80% recharged in 90mins. I have a night stand that wireless charges the phone every night. What I’m trying to say is, battery is a non problem for me
Magsafe doesn’t really change anything, they’ve literally just put magnets on the back of the phone. The most it’s used for is accessories, put the phone on a stand, have a wallet you can take off your phone, or so that their wireless charger stays in place. They still only have 15w wireless charging.
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You could also just use a battery case, or plug in an existing battery pack you have. Magsafe things are nice to have but not a revolutionary idea.
It’s more Qi charging with magnets to align the wireless charger right. More efficient wireless charging, and opens up a lot of accessories.
I use a MagSafe wallet and it’s reduced the number of things I carry with me to really just 2. Phone and car key sine the wallet is magnet attached to the phone.
I also have a MagSafe charging stand that allows me to use standby mode and it turns my phone into a nightstand clock with my schedule and things displayed.
There’s MagSafe battery packs, phone stands, car mounts, you name it.
No iPhone until now has had “Road Assistance over Satellite”. No iPhone has had these camera capabilities. On the Pro, high speed USB can open many new use cases. As a smaller feature, I’m really excited about the Thread support
How about they add a 3.5mm audio jack? That’d be a killer feature!
as an android user with 3.5mm jack since always in all of the phones I have had, I didn’t use it once since like 2017
I have a collection of wired headphones. I did use it, when phones had it.
Now it’s dongle life.
I mean… if you look beyond Apple then there’s loads of 3.5mm-ready phones available
As an Android user. People I think forget how much headphones with cords sucked to.
Skull candies were expensive, broke, and sounded like shit.
Did no one else have headphones get yanked out of your heads bent and worn out. Cords get frayed, have them get lost or stolen. It was also just nother tangled cord that I had do deal with.
I might be a rarity here and you are entitled to feel how you feel but God I look back and think about how badly I fucking don’t miss the headphones jack and all the shitty headphones brands trying to make a buck.
There are cheap and affordable shitty sounding Bluetooth earbuds and good ones these days at an affordable cost now. Just. Move. On.
I use wired headphones every day!
The only reason I use wired headphones is my company doesn’t see the problem with providing a Windows specific Bluetooth headset to my Mac
Yep, exactly. When people hate on TWS earphones they usually only have experience with ridiculously expensive Airpods or these bulky airpods clones from AliExpress, while there are in facts lots and lots of affordable and great-sounding alternatives from brands such as Sony, Xiaomi, or Haylou; the last one being my choice
The only thing I have against wireless stuff is the battery. The batteries aren’t easily replaced and it’s often the death of the headphone when the battery no longer holds charge.
It means I don’t want to spend much on wireless cans because I know they will die.
Do you own a wired earphone?
I do have a pair of wired headphones I use with my laptop and probably could find a pair or two of earphones I used pre-2017; what’s your point?
Isn’t it obvious? I thought you didn’t have a pair of those, which would explain why you didn’t use the jack on your phone.
Any particular reason you use your earphones only with your laptop?
No, I use my laptop stationarily so the cord never bothered me, unlike when using wired earphones on the go with my smartphone
Ah, that makes sense. I loved my wired pair because I sometimes forgot to keep my wireless charged, and they had a tendency to be low on charge when I needed to be on important calls. They were my backups and the audio quality was also pretty good.
My current pair of wireless, that I use when exercising, has also stopped turning ON for reasons I don’t follow, so I’m understandably miffed at having to listen to ambient noise during exercise.
It seems to me that we’ll continue to have these issues as long as we have non-removable-battery earphones, since many of the issues come from having an independant power supply and firmware components.
I don’t object to them as an optional feature, but they are about as useful as optical drives to the typical user.
I used to be one of the angry people pissed off about losing the jack.
Now that I have a few wireless earphones, I wouldn’t go back to wired. It’s a mild inconvenience to have to charge them but the battery life is decent and not have a cable getting caught on stuff whilst I’m working is super useful.
The audio quality is a tiny bit worse than wired, but unless you’re an audio engineer, you’re not going to notice.
Why not bring black floppy drives too while they’re at it?
Hell yeah!
There was always a Lightning to headphone adapter if you really wanted it but most of us had given up the headphone jack long before Apple stopped providing it
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Randos on Twitter left negative comments with little to no substantive feedback. Fire up the article!
People say this every year. The vast majority of true innovation is behind us. Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, “eh, why not?”. This is not news.
Why was an article written this year? Is it just because some reporter browsed X and thought, “eh, why not?”. This is not news.
you just broke the code to modern journalism
We are both engaging with the topic. That’s the problem.
shit, you’re very much right
Apple keeps releasing the same HypePhone every year.
Lol what? Just dont buy it, Its that simple. Suckers born every minute!
I hate this fucking mentality. It almost always sounds like, “If you don’t like it then you can just leave.”
Which is usually not a solution.
Well the phone market is mostly needs-met so it’s not like anyone is dying because the iphone 15 is not a blockbuster
Well the phone market is mostly needs-met so it’s not like anyone is dying because the iphone 15 is not a blockbuster
It actually is and the world would be a better place if people were more willing to vote with their wallets.
Phone companies will absolutely take notice if people start choosing cheaper models over the latest flagships.
I haven’t bought a flagship for my last two generations of phones, I’ve never once regretted not buying the top of the range option and I’m over £1000 better off because if it.
Lack of Innovation is their business model
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You know L4 is a bot, right? They need zero phones. ;)
iPhone 12 here… hope to also be using it 2 years hence
LG Prada.
As always, Apple “borrows” innovation while others take the actual risk.
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I’m not even a fan and I’m disappointed.
You call that competition?
