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      It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

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      A bit of both I guess

      Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

      And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

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      A good web app is awesome!

      But the big ones usually wants to have a native app so that they can scan your whole computer and so on. This is good news.

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    Yeah, it is called Word. Works on all computers, is free to use the web based version, and is the world standard.

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      It does not work on my work-computer, since office macros and some formatting renders differently across versions. Other required software constraints make windows unusable for me.

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    Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it’s probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only “easy to use” example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That’s a bit much.

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      In the README there’s also instructions for Docker Compose, although it’s quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I’d want to self-host.

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      Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

      It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

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      Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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        I don’t like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A “local” kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

        A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It’s easy to move “up” the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having “have a k8s cluster with helm” working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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        Seconding k3d (and, by extension, k3s). If you’re in a market for sth suitable for more upstream-compliant clustering solution (k3s uses SQLite instead of etcd, iirc), RKE2 is also a great choice

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      Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don’t have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

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          Thanks for this; I may use it to build out my NextCloud server. I’ve already used it to replace shared calendars and contacts.

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            If you’re using Nextcloud All In One then it’s easy to enable it in the AIO settings.

            If you’re not, I suggest looking into it. It’s the new officially recommended way of installing and it’s been great.

            Nextcloud has an export/import data function but at the time I did it I only had a few GB of data so not sure how well it scales.

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    Yes, that’s excellent… We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

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    I love the docs ability to create databases from my docs. That would be super useful for work and research activities.

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        No, because with the above you can have rich objects in databases (for example, a dynamically updated list of medical events, each with all the attributes I want, attachments etc.), and almost arbitrarily deep nesting of databases. The idea to have databases with pages is one of the key features that made notion successful. It allows to structure knowledge without duplication, in addition to provide some other no-code features.

        Spreadsheets are not even close.

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      From briefly looking over the toot, I think the German version is called openDesk (bad choice as there seems to be some interior design software with the same name) there is a community version you can self host in a docker container. They apparently also have distro packages for Debian and Ubuntu but they seem to have stopped development on those.

      Here’s a link: https://opendesk.eu/en/

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        openDesk is a complete suite of open source software. I guess Docs could at some point become a part of it. But it‘s not the same thing.

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      Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

      Self-hostable, but it seems like an absolute behemoth of an application if their “non-production-use-only” docker-compose file is to be believed, and I couldn’t find any production-ready deployment instructions on a quick skim. No obvious signs of federation and I didn’t see anything on their roadmap, not sure it would make a lot of sense for this though.

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        Deployment instructions start with the prerequisite that you have a full kubernetes cluster with ingress laying around, so… yeah. It looks like it’ll be on the heavy side.

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    I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though… Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results… oh wait, you can’t… Cause it isn’t a Google Docs alternative.

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      None of those tools are editors, right? They all try to be a notion alternative, which is also not an editor. There is basically 0 focus on typesetting.

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      I disagree. There’s Microsoft Office, and there’s everything else. Google is in that second bucket.

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        Depends on who you hang with. Pretty much all businesses at this point do collaboration either with Office 365 or with Google Docs, and the same in Academia. Usually it’s a mix of both.

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        That is fine to have that opinion but it is irrelevant to the discussion since no where did I praise Google Docs. I’m just explaining the difference between this & and editor that does descent typesetting.

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          And an editor that does a decent job is not google docs.

          It is embarassing that MS has dominated this for more than 30 years and Google, despite its infinite wealth, hasn’t made a decent office app.

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            I wholeheartedly agree with this opinion. Google Docs has done very little to innovate. The fact that you’re still limited to like 6 built-in styles & lack of integrated syntax highlighting is ridiculous.

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              Google Docs has done very little to innovate.

              The place where I see Google Docs being far superior to any other product I’ve run into is collaborative work. Having multiple people writing in the same doc at the simultaneously is a train wreck in most products Office365 included. In other products there’s a good chance you’ll have a version conflict and someone’s changes will be lost. Google docs handles that with ease.

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                I have been using collaboration with Microsoft products for decades with little issue. I first started in college in 2006 with Onenote and it worked well even then. googol is garbage.