Even with the caveats about limited data and untangling causation and correlation, the statistics are striking: the first year of a scheme in Wales where the speed limit on urban roads was lowered to 20mph resulted in about 100 fewer people killed or seriously injured.
Oh yeah definitely the Dutch are docile drivers, if a bit distracted… It wasn’t my point that they’re crazy drivers, just a bit over the limit if you don’t force it on them through infrastructure. Nothing compared to other countries for sure. Their biggest pitfall is their love for just hanging 20cm behind you regardless of the roads you’re on, the speed you’re going or anything else really, they don’t even want to overtake most the time, they just like hanging out right behind the car in front.