Hey Framework, how about sending some laptops down under? I still am not able to buy any from the website here in NZ
To let you skip the article, they are pausing sales to the USA on the base models of the framework 13, presumably because those are their lowest margin models. The two affected SKUs for the moment are the Intel 125H and Ryzen 7640U
Not in Europe AFAIK.
Poor Puerto Rico
Look, they’re not rich. We get it!
I got a Framework 13 a couple months ago - it’s been awesome so far. I’m happy to support their business model & repairability - it’s super awesome.
Sucks for you guys south of the 49th parallel who have to deal with (pay) all these ludicrous tariffs!
Just bought my FW13 last month. USA. It’s either perfect timing, because tariffs. Or terrible timing, because tariffs. I haven’t decided yet.
Love the laptop though!
Waiting on my 13 (ryzen ai 7 350). Hope they don’t claw back for a price hike…
I would expect a small company like them to be the most vulnerable to tariffs. This might cause them to go out of business.
That’s sad , I am seriously considering getting one to support their business model.
Pretty much every other laptop manufacturer is going to be hit by the same tariffs
If it makes you feel better, no one will go unscathed.
Really sad. This would be one of the first places I was planning to look when I need a new computer
The good news is it looks like it is only the 13" systems being paused for now. And they likely can get them going again once they figure out the new tariff reqs and get the new prices integrated on the website.
How is pausing sales in one area, rather than just raising prices accordingly, the better business decision? No one is forcing them to sell at a specific price point.
A big problem with Trump’s tariffs isn’t that they exist; it’s that they’re subject to change at any moment. To be clear, they’re idiotic. But no one can invest in anything long term in America right now.
Imagine opening a restaurant in the U.S. right now. Half your kitchen equipment is subject to steel or aluminum tariffs. You don’t know if you can import anything. Or you can wait a year and see how full Trump’s diaper is. He also looks half dead without makeup and might have pissed off the Yakuza (or worse). The smart move is to wait to open your restaurant.
Now imagine any business bigger than a restaurant.
A big problem with Trump’s tariffs isn’t that they exist
Haven’t even finished reading your first sentence before I HARD disagree with you.
…and then you finished reading the sentence, right? Just in case it adds more nuance or context, or makes an argument you didn’t consider, right? You engaged their comment in good faith and gave them the chance to make their case before deciding whether you actually disagree with them, right?
I wasn’t dismissing the problem that they exist. That’s the first problem. I was saying uncertainty prevents as much investment as do tariffs. No one knows what the tariffs will be in a month. His brain is a non-Newtronean fluid at this point.
Many business are doing that pending clarity/resolution on the tariff. Here another example with automobile maker holding cars in port https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2025/04/07/volkswagen-audi-freezes-shipments-trump-tariffs/82981796007/
But like that article says, automakers have ~3 months of inventory already in the US. They aren’t pausing sales, they are just continuing selling what they have here while betting the tariffs get lowered before they run out.
I will assume that if you are a salesperson you have a pipeline and that mean there is a pause for the 3month timeline. Sure for this case the day to day they don’t pause but all in all every business is adapting with the everyday news coming up. Crazy time to run a business in the states.
Well, my original question stands. Is it really a better business decision to choose not to sell at all vs raising prices.
I run a US business where the cost of materials has always been volatile and the cost of the end product follows that. 40% swings aren’t uncommon and just get passed onto the end user; my profit stays relatively the same. So I can’t fathom just locking the doors when things get expensive (and people are still willing to pay it).
I could understand it if they were doing it as some form of protest, but then it doesn’t make sense to only stop selling the low priced options. That’s just hurting the people furthest removed from what you are protesting.
Agree with you it is a business decision and as of every business seems to be doing its things. I think they do that as mitigation but will need to rise.
If you don’t mind me asking, what type of business/product do you run with such price volatility?
This is a hardware startup trying to attract customers away from the likes of Lenova, who has simpler products, a more mature supply chain, and economy-of-scale to their advantage. No way are they pricing to absorb 40%+ with day-to-day swings unless they have to.
They have no idea how much more the trade war will escalate between the purchase and the item getting imported. If their laptops take several months to ship and their margins are lower than the increase in tariffs after the sale was made, then they lose money on the sale.
