No? We just gonna sit around and let Nazi Germany 2.0 happen? Maybe waggle your finger a bit at them? Cool. Yeah. Okay. I love our leaders, they’re so commited to the freedom and wellbeing of their people.

God I wish the Red Army was here to save our asses like last time.

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      Well conquering a land and destroying a nation are two different things. Afghanistan isn’t some beacon of progress since being utterly decimated by the west. I don’t think the US could literally invade Iran but they could certainly slaughter people and destroy the economy without putting people on the ground. Iran’s only available retaliation would be to strike US allies in the area

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        The comment said invasion so destroying a nation isn’t actually winning an invasion. I wouldn’t imagine that Hexbear would have a lot of people saying that the US won in Afghanistan but they failed to ever actually achieve their goals and beat the Taliban. I think it’s obvious that if they couldn’t do that then they couldn’t beat Iran

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          The Taliban was their proxy though? Their actual goals were never to beat the Taliban, it was to extract resources, sell weapons, and destabilize the region which they succeeded in. I agree they couldn’t successfully invade and occupy Iran but they could definitely kill a lot of Iranians and destroy key infrastructure with little to no direct retaliation from Iran. Best Iran can do is destroy oil production in nearby US allies

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            The Taliban was no longer focusing as US proxy by the 2000s. The US’s goal was to extract resources and control Afghanistan and they failed to do that with a much more hostile group being successful.

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              Wym, they extracted resources for two decades under the guise of fighting the Taliban. Even if they weren’t directly a proxy anymore, their existence was all the US needed to be there and do that for longer than some users on hexbear has been alive.

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                Yes, but the Taliban was unnecessary for that goal and having a pro-US government would make that goal easier. That was certainly the US’s goal but the Taliban was exactly helping them with it as it opposed the US being in Afghanistan at all.

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                  Who else was going to justify the invasion? The war on terror against the people that did 9/11 was certainly an important part of manufacturing consent, no?

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                    Sure, but the Taliban did legitimately oppose the US, both can be true at the same time, especially one the US actually invaded Afghanistan. I think the US using something to invade a country doesn’t make them a proxy in-of-itself. Gaddafi was not a US proxy for example