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I was always pretty interested in geology, but I knew that the only secure work would be for oil companies so I never went for the degree…
I was always really interested in gems and minerals, but admiring them isn’t a job, and photography in that field is insanely specialized and not exactly a reasonable goal to shoot for, so I never got that degree…
I was also always really interested in astronomy, but there’s literally no work in that field at all so I didn’t go for the degree…
I never “found myself” because all of my interests either has you working for “the enemy” or there just weren’t any jobs to be had. Now I’m stuck working in a factory and I have an upcoming job that’s for the Israeli military…
Pretty sure geologists are also needed in many types of construction projects. Of course it is not that interesting to tell the 1224th project team that they need to dig their foundations at least 80cm deep and guard against rising humidity.
A geologist buddy of mine works on analyzing soil for placing wind farms.
I have a BS in physics that I never used, I chose it because I had no idea what I was doing and discovered afterward that most jobs involving physics are less “figuring out how stars work, for the joy of discovery” and more, “figuring out new and exciting ways to kill brown people, for profit,” which I did not sign up for. So, I’ve wound up doing grunt work at warehouses instead. “Learn to wash your own vegetables and you won’t have to pay court to kings,” as the story goes.
A lot of people go into STEM because they just want to solve problems and the issue with that is that if you just solve any problem that’s put in front of you without regard for who’s problem it is and whether solving it will actually make the world a better place, then you belong in the same category as the guy who developed the Blitzkrieg doctrine, who claimed afterwards that he didn’t really care about “politics” and was just doing his job as best as he could. Just because you’re capable of solving a problem and someone’s asking you to doesn’t mean that you actually should.
How do you feel about going into academia? I’m not in physics but I have a similar predicament (I have more options though, not just bombs) and I considered the idea of continuing studies, getting a PhD and just being a professor so I didn’t have to worry about ethics, but the lack of opportunities to organize labor + the fact I’d probably just be training students to go work for defense companies anyway convinced me to just try to find a more benign job in industry.
I’ve considered it, but I might have to go back to school to get the qualifications. I’m also trans and nervous about what that future might look like.
And yeah, there’s also the issue of just training people to work for defense companies. At least you could maybe warn them? Tbh, if did go back to school for teaching, I feel like I’d want to teach history instead, it’s much more of a “study of everything” than physics is (and is more relevant to politics). Like tbh I kinda lost interest in physics after graduating, for me, it was tied to a lot of things that I’ve left behind.
defense contractors in the us should be called attack contractors instead. truer to form.
Offense Contractors
“Merchants of death” has a certain ring to it
Department of Defense should be called Department of Ethnic Cleansing.
“And you, young engineer, you who dream of improving the lot of the workers by the application of science to industry - what a sad disappointment, what terrible disillusions await you! You devote the useful energy of your mind to working out the scheme of a railway which, running along the brink of precipices and burrowing into the very heart of mountains of granite, will bind together two countries which nature has separated. But once at work, you see whole regiments of workers decimated by privations and sickness in this dark tunnel - you see others of them returning home carrying with them, maybe, a few pence, and the undoubted seeds of consumption; you see human corpses - the results of a groveling greed - as landmarks along each yard of your road; and, when the railroad is finished, you see, lastly, that it becomes the highway for the artillery of an invading army…”
Peter Kroporkin, 1880
A hundred years later engineers are more jaded. They know what they are doing. At MIT in the 1980’s it was called “get your fingerprints on the murder weapon”.
I’d work for Lockheed.
Well…, “work” is a strong word. I’d cash their checks for as long as it takes them to realize I’m only pretending to work and fire me. XD
Unless it was like, weather satellites or some other non-military space tech. I’d probably actually do that but I’d be conflicted about it.
You’d be a perfect fit as a military analyst. Those people make noncredibledefense look positively proficient.
only pretending to work
military analyst
noncredibledefense
those aren’t the same thing?
Gotta have analysts. Can’t fill up a nondescript office block without analysts.
These people would have my whole family killed for a $200 raise and then tell me I’m the bad guy when I say the American military industrial complex is one of my greatest enemies, including its workers.A revolution would be bad for the disabled
How is the increasingly fascist state for them? This shit is so bad faith it reeks. I know so many disabled comrades that would laugh this shit out the door
join lockhead martin and leak documents to Abdul Malik Al Houthi
That’s not a Mk. 15 Raytheon Knife Missile - THIS is an Mk 15 Raytheon Knife Missile!
Shaming people for their job is such a shitty thing to do. I heard the same thing in college for having a job lined up with a major defense contractor. My circumstances were such that living with parents or someone else wasn’t an option - it was very important for me to have a job. I am grateful for that opportunity - the people I worked with were all great people. You can be an ideological fool but not everyone has that luxury.
Working for and allowing people to kill other people is also a pretty shitty thing to do.
Building bombs is shameful.
Cuck
I’m a physicist in Norway. Outside the few university jobs, you can either work for the oil industry, which kills the planet, or defense, which kill people. I like the planet.
A lot of people who studied physics do not end up in the “murder children for money” field. You have a choice, and you chose the deeply, deeply immoral path. You’re not fooling anyone, probably not even yourself.
There are more guns than people in the USA. Suicide is at record highs and the chaos flames of our failing society are starting to lick the faces of those who built this empire of death. Justice is always served and it is not in service of you. Some might spit in the face of the natural hierarchy while I just accepted it. Collective denial and mass hysteria will rip apart these wicked societies. Unfortunately, I’m in the heart of the Imperial Core. I’ve been politically aware since I was a teenager and I’m watching things play out and I have faith that the evildoers will fail. It’ll seem slow and creeping, but you’ll be given a choice. Either be a slave or start to work together with people you don’t agree with a hundred percent. And of course, people’s movements and populist movements will be co-opted by the Intelligence Department in the interest of the Capitalist Class. I think people fail to see themselves in the hierarchy. That’s one of the biggest issues I think in the United States. Everybody else thinks everybody else is the sucker. Things are going to start getting even more insane. This is why they’re building cop cities. They have no plans on improving anything and AOC and Bernie Sanders are not going to bring in your socialist utopia. Voter turnout will get smaller and smaller. The police state will get bigger and bigger. And the reach that the Intelligence Department has into your life will get greater and greater. We’re just in denial of what is happening and because we don’t understand geopolitics and world history from all viewpoints, we’re not recognizing that this techno fascism is connected all around the world and it’s gaining with strength. Racism or any ism is for poor people. Rich people are all just violent animals and they don’t answer to the law as we do because money can buy anything. I think there are two types of atheists and, possibly, it is also somewhat a spectrum, the ones that are at the bottom that accept their mortality and the ones at the top who are so narcissistic that they can’t just assume a place in the world. For their anxiety and fear of death causes them to control until they cause strangulation. Our happiness is someone else’s misery in the current economic system. And like the orange, it eventually runs out of juice. As the money funnels to the top, the only thing they can do is split up dollars into pennies. Then begins inshitification, where things are so dysfunctional that you just don’t even bother. when you print money, it loses its value. But yet you don’t have investment because you have no incentive. All world wars are caused by finances. America was never and never will be a democracy. Capitalism is incompatible with democracy. And the free market economy is impossible without traditional liberalism, Neoliberalism is a right wing ideology . the very people that whine about free market economy are the same people who don’t want oversight. I guess some people would call it the HVAC business class who can finish a transaction, but when the numbers start getting bigger, their eyes get crossed. The justice will be that the very people that protect their self-interest will eventually be targeted by corporations, and they will eventually lose their businesses. What is frustrating is that you have two stupid people arguing over something they both know nothing about. The political parties of today do not resemble anything of what their names are supposed to mean. The liberal of today is not a liberal. A conservative of today is not conservative. And most of the populace in the United States lives in a vacuum. and is reactionary and misinformed. This is perfect for the left and right paradigm, as the news media inflames emotions and scares people to existential crisis it activates both parties to ratchet the effects of this police state. They all in on it. Even your precious Bernie and AOC. They might think they can create change, but deep down their in denial, and they’re just collecting a check.
There are more guns than people in the USA. Suicide is at record highs and the chaos flames of our failing society are starting to lick the faces of those who built this empire of death. Justice is always served and it is not in service of you. Some might spit in the face of the natural hierarchy while I just accepted it. Collective denial and mass hysteria will rip apart these wicked societies. Unfortunately, I’m in the heart of the Imperial Core. I’ve been politically aware since I was a teenager and I’m watching things play out and I have faith that the evildoers will fail. It’ll seem slow and creeping, but you’ll be given a choice. Either be a slave or start to work together with people you don’t agree with a hundred percent. And of course, people’s movements and populist movements will be co-opted by the Intelligence Department in the interest of the Capitalist Class. I think people fail to see themselves in the hierarchy. That’s one of the biggest issues I think in the United States. Everybody else thinks everybody else is the sucker. Things are going to start getting even more insane. This is why they’re building cop cities. They have no plans on improving anything and AOC and Bernie Sanders are not going to bring in your socialist utopia. Voter turnout will get smaller and smaller. The police state will get bigger and bigger. And the reach that the Intelligence Department has into your life will get greater and greater. We’re just in denial of what is happening and because we don’t understand geopolitics and world history from all viewpoints, we’re not recognizing that this techno fascism is connected all around the world and it’s gaining with strength. Racism or any ism is for poor people. Rich people are all just violent animals and they don’t answer to the law as we do because money can buy anything. I think there are two types of atheists and, possibly, it is also somewhat a spectrum, the ones that are at the bottom that accept their mortality and the ones at the top who are so narcissistic that they can’t just assume a place in the world. For their anxiety and fear of death causes them to control until they cause strangulation. Our happiness is someone else’s misery in the current economic system. And like the orange, it eventually runs out of juice. As the money funnels to the top, the only thing they can do is split up dollars into pennies. Then begins inshitification, where things are so dysfunctional that you just don’t even bother. when you print money, it loses its value. But yet you don’t have investment because you have no incentive. All world wars are caused by finances. America was never and never will be a democracy. Capitalism is incompatible with democracy. And the free market economy is impossible without traditional liberalism, Neoliberalism is a right wing ideology . the very people that whine about free market economy are the same people who don’t want oversight. I guess some people would call it the HVAC business class who can finish a transaction, but when the numbers start getting bigger, their eyes get crossed. The justice will be that the very people that protect their self-interest will eventually be targeted by corporations, and they will eventually lose their businesses. What is frustrating is that you have two stupid people arguing over something they both know nothing about. The political parties of today do not resemble anything of what their names are supposed to mean. The liberal of today is not a liberal. A conservative of today is not conservative. And most of the populace in the United States lives in a vacuum. and is reactionary and misinformed. This is perfect for the left and right paradigm, as the news media inflames emotions and scares people to existential crisis it activates both parties to ratchet the effects of this police state. They all in on it. Even your precious Bernie and AOC. They might think they can create change, but deep down their in denial, and they’re just collecting a check.
Space?
Wait till you go to hell for spelling defence as “defense”
Bri’ish vs 'Murican spelling?
Shiiiit, hell is full of children, dyslectic people and every person that used “U” and “R” instead of “You” and “Are” on the internet.
Well, the last part doesn’t surprise me.
wait, what entity in Christianity is choosing your after life destination?
If its god sending you to hell, surely that helps the devil?
In Christianity, I don’t think it matters. All the deities and other entities are vicious cunts.
This is true, all Americans are going to hell /s
