• Jaytreeman@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    A choice between a guy who’s going to make the world worse and a guy who’s going to make the country worse…

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      No, this is the choice between literal fascism and just another mediocre democrat leader. You are an absolute fool if you think it’s a difficult choice

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          Do you think what’s going on in Palestine would be happening under Trump? It’s a huge what if, but I don’t think so.
          Trump’s a fascist. But you’re in denial if you think the US government hasn’t always been fascist. Biden’s just not an accelerationist.
          As a US neighbor, I’d take Biden any day of the week, but would Yemeni people think the same? That’s all I’m saying

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            What method can you use to determine your “what if” scenario is true or not?

            Also “Trump is a fascist but so are these other guys” is not a way to convince antifascists that Trump is the best choice.

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                So who do you suggest a person votes for in this situation? The real world situation of Biden v Trump.

                Unless one dies or has a stroke (very likely for Trump, somewhat likely for Biden) they are the options.

                For the record, if Trump did have a stroke and had to avoid public appearances, his popularity would almost certainly go up, but leave that aside for now.

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            Do you think what’s going on in Palestine would be happening under Trump?

            No, I think it would be unspeakably worse. I’m not sure how anyone could reasonably think it would be BETTER with Trump.

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              Trump was the first US president I can remember that didn’t start a new war.

              People here have some crazy blinders on.
              Also, I’ve got trans friends and family and care about the environment. I prefer Biden

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                Trump moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem to egg on Hamas, you’re delusional if you think the situation in Palestine would actually be better.

                He also escalated tensions with Iran and assassinated one of their generals and massively increased stone strikes compared to Obama. We came damn close to war under Trump.

                Meanwhile what war did Biden start? The US didn’t invade Ukraine or Palestine.

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      I think you mean make the country and the world worse. Because Trump is really good at both of those.

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        Biden is good for the country, but his foreign policy is horrible.
        Trump is bad for the country, but he’s such a wild card that he’s got a stabilizing presence internally

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          Even if some of Biden’s foreign policy smells, I’d rather have him at it than whatever the fuck Trump thought he was doing going around and stroking his ego over the other heads of state.

          A wild card is a bullshit term for getting in bed with the Russians and pissing on it both literally and figuratively. Which, btw, is an oxymoron to pair it with “stability”. We see now how he got played and/or paid.