Put it this way. If some good ole boys show up in my neighborhood. The Nortenos will probably deal with them before they even get set up.
Building a corrupt police state one EO at a time.
Militarize the police
It wasn’t yet? US police has fucking tanks and mraps, it is already militarized, just without the training and restraint
Clearly they need cybertrucks and Hugo Boss uniforms
Holy fucking shit… 1000$ for an asylum claim? And 3500$ for children. This is monstrous. I am an immigrant and naturalized citizen to Canada and I never had to pay that much legal fees for immigration and citizenship.
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I saw the picture and thought “Blazing Saddles”! Now I’m even sadder that I live in a farce country.
The sheriff is near!
I am going to short on my American stocks for the next four years. Trump won’t want to step down at the end of his term and when that happens, there will be chaos.
I dumped all my us stocks as soon as Trump was getting warmed up, I won’t be going back for some years irrespective of perceived returns potential
I getting rid of my bonds and stocks, aside from a token $1,000. I will leave that in, since I hope hyperinflation to make that paltry amount reach the account’s cap within five years. No idea if that hyperinflated excess would actually be useful, but…well, who knows what is a good choice, if you can’t buy physical properties right now?
The rest of my savings are being transmuted into Euros. I have no idea how to get gold at a fair price, and I am aligned with democracy, so I figure money affiliated with Europe would be a good choice for me. Partially in case if I need to flee the Trump Regime, but also because Europe has an protective ocean and many different countries to prevent an outright crash when economies start breaking. I will almost certainly lose buying power, but probably won’t get wiped out by America’s self-disassembly.
A third executive order requires professional truck drivers to be proficient in English.
Higher requirements than the office of president.
I have some gloves-off shit I need to get off my mind and I feel the time and place for it is now because I’m very angry:
So… non voters, remember when we were telling everyone that would listen to “vote blue no matter who? Remember that? Of course you do- you threw that shit back at us like it was a god damned grenade. Remember that?
Yeah, well…. THIS is why we were saying that.
You see, we all saw this shit coming. Which is why we were saying to plug your fucking noses and just vote. Hell…, We even tried to reason with you- suggesting that-
“You’re not voting FOR Harris, you’re voting AGAINST fascism!”
You didn’t listen.
Your “…but, they’re doing a genocide!” was so deeply embedded via your little edgelord wind-tunnels, that most of you began to see it as an argument to win, instead of a point to be made-
Instead of doing anything substantial to help end it.
Well. Your point was definitely made. We all have heard you loud and clear. You collectively and VERY loudly agreed that you would be fine with the outcome either way- since genocide was going to be happening no matter who you voted for, right?
I do have to ask though…
Are you still fine with your choice? How about the memory of you, sitting on your asses and laughing at all the people rushing to voting booths in-between work and picking their kids up from daycare… How is that sitting with you? All those jokes and inflammatory remarks you hurled at the people who tried their fucking best to stop this with the only thing they have- their vote. The people, who tried to protect your sorry asses that couldn’t be bothered to even do the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM asked to protect our democracy.
I ask you… are those jokes still funny?
Is there any chance that any of you want to walk back all those accusations you made about everyone being sheep? What about those smug and arrogant jabs about how both sides are the same? About how democrats and republicans are somehow working together…
care to issue a statement here?
Because I’m pretty damned certain that NONE of this shit would be happening right now if you had listened to us when we told you that this was going to happen.
When HE fucking told you this would happen.
And while very few people here were ever in favor of the genocide in Palestine- much to the disagreement of the few that are around that are STILL arguing against this point- we knew and know- that the pain we face at home must be resolved before we can be of any aid in the pain endured by others in theirs… Especially when most of you couldn’t have even pointed to any of those homes on a map a year ago and a half ago.
It should be noted that this is not in any way to lay the entirety of blame at the feet of the stay-at-home/its-someone-else’s-problem protestors, but the numbers are in, and while your combined lack of effort might not make up the entirety of the ninety one million registered voters that stayed home, it’s a fair guess that between you and the ones that voted third party-
We could have avoided this.
Roughly four to five million votes. That’s all we needed. Just four to five million of you to have listened. But your arrogance, your fucking entitlement- wouldn’t let this happen.
So now here we are. With this shit. This tyrant king and his pet tech-gremlin, stripping away our rights hour by hour, day by day. And while dealing with this shit, I as an American, have to carry on hour by hour, day by day- being tossed into the same bucked with you.
I have to shoulder the blame right along side you. And it’s not fucking fair. I did my part. I voted. I canvased, I shouted from the fucking rooftops.
But I’ll digress…
I sincerely hope that high road you thought you were taking lands you all right to where it seems the rest of us are going….
Because no one deserves it more.
Except Palestinian babies. They deserve what they get.
—blue maga
90 million voters don’t know just how fucking good they have it. They think America is America because it’s America. America is America because the people before us were willing to die for human rights.
I didn’t even have to hold my nose for Kamala. She seemed fine. Nothing amazing but fine, just like Biden.
But then again I don’t care about the pressing issues like how someone laughs.
I was one of those people right there with you, screaming at the non voters to vote.
Given what the Election Truth Alliance, and The Voice of San Diego have uncovered, I don’t think it would have mattered. They used every single method to steal the election that they could.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
I voted liberal in Canada specifically because the conservatives were becoming more MAGA adjacent. I don’t like the libs much, but I will have them over PP’s Trump ass kissing any day.
2024 was the second highest turnout of any election on record. This isn’t the fault of non voters.
Democrats should have been begging voters to turn out, offering to give them anything they wanted to avoid Trump. Instead they actively refused the one thing voters were demanding while using trump almost like a threat
I’m so tired of this ‘democrats can’t fail, only be failed’ apologia from liberals. As things continue getting worse it will only become harder for democrats to win anything, especially if they continue refusing what voters are asking for while blaming them for the fascism dems are collaborating with.
Better get your boots laced because sitting on your ass and whining about non-voters won’t protect you, we’re all in this shit now because democrats couldn’t get themselves to challenge Israel’s genocide
The Democratic Party doesn’t give a fuck about America turning into a fascist nightmare. Never have, never will. Most of them would be happy to play puppet opposition if it meant that the checks would keep coming.
Try convincing someone like rhoeri of that.
They’d rather deflate the popular anti-wealth momentum within their own party just so they can deflect attention away from inequality, and thats why they’ll continue losing. You and I know that, but people like the above will continue placing blame on voters who are increasingly frustrated instead.
That’s how libs end up collaborating with fascism - they’re too invested in the existing and failing capital structure
There’s none so deaf as those who are really deaf
I don’t know if it’s a legacy of organized religion or a devolution into tribalism, but they seem to see “vote blue no matter what” as the biggest part of their identity.
I’d rather put the blame where it lies.
Like Musk blaming Tesla’s poor performance on people boycotting his fascist behavior.
No, it’s like a voter blaming ninety million non-voters for not voting for a man who told them this would all happen.
Let’s not resort to analogies here. It is exactly what it is.
ninety million non-voters
Better start blaming them for chattel slavery too, then.
Okay non voters, should we go lynch them or something? Come the fuck on
I’m sorry, am I not allowed to be angry that the assholes that helped cause this stand among us pretending to be victims of their own action??
Yes! You should be angry at the DNC for their shit platform.
To reiterate, I voted, people voted for trump too you know. If we had a perfect election system to begin with there would not be a non voting demographic, now as much as i would too like to live in that reality, that isnt this one. If im going to somehow find more contempt to millions of americans rather than the few up top, right now, I’d be a sad sack of shit.
So glad we have non voters to tell us how bad things could have been!
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Then what is your point?
I made it already. It was that big long rant that started this conversion, do I need to copy and paste it for you?
How interesting…
Okay whats up with your lil stealth edits?
This is why i dont argue with these people
Do you have any principals? Because with mine i choose to stand by the people I suffer with, maybe you’re not american which explains your inflamatory rhetoric around this. So youre telling me i should be more upset with the millions of people who didnt vote, still record turnout i might add, and not my trump loving neighbors who have been harassing my family for years?? Thats stupid, you can admit it.
Enjoying Trump?
Am Not an American . Are the Democrats now doing something to be more appealing in the future, or they just rely on Trump to keep being awful?
I think this is hard for people from other countries to understand. Our Democrats are not an opposition party. We don’t have that concept in our system. I’ll admit I was naive to it before Trump started Trumping. Even after the first Trump I was thinking, “Well, that was fucking dumb. Glad we found our sanity again.” And I was wrong.
I wouldn’t have been able to articulate this before. I credit my time on Lemmy for some of it. But in reality you can’t explain any of this shit show UNLESS you accept that our entire political system is now structured to serve the rich at the expense of the peasants. Universal healthcare is a no brainer. Infrastructure like rail and renewables is a no brainer. Affordable childcare and reasonable wages is a fucking no brainer. UNLESS the incentives for those in power are not aligned with the good of the people.
Democrats don’t care that they’re not in power, as long as the establishment keeps getting paid.
Now, of course, there can be those like AOC and Sanders who buck that trend. Leaders with those types of values do tend toward the Democratic party. But those are the exceptions. And they can’t save us.
At the moment, our fiercest Democrat just voted for the new law to allow The government to censor anything on the internet they don’t like. I think it’s fair to say it’s not going well.
I think now is a good time for third party too get going. I’m sure a bunch of left leaning Democrats could take a good chunk of the vote and tea party the Democrats.
We’ve passed a line, sans drastic things happening, there won’t be any meaningful votes anymore.
The Democrats are probably praying that Trump lives till he’s 1000 years old, otherwise they would need to do something more than not being Ttump
they would need to do something more than not being Ttump
The only thing not being Trump has gotten them so far was one more term of an old white guy who was barely left of the right.
Wanted to add you make ml’s look completely sane, given how much you post about them.
Exhibit A
If youre accusing me of being an ml, I’ve got news for you.
Seriously, what are you trying to achieve? We get it, you’re self righteous and need to whine, but what does any of this actually acomplish?
I’m not self-righteous at all. I’m just sick of pretending these assholes didn’t help cause the problem they fucking complain about every day here.
And the irony of you calling me self-righteous while these assholes are responding that they have every entitled reason not to vote against tyranny.
Fucking hilarious.
So even though i voted for Harris, i get no qualms with how that - failed - campaign was ran? It failed, a campaigns only purpose is to win and it failed. We dont fail our representatives, they fail us. Tell me what isnt righteous if I cant critique a campaign.
Well said brother.
I held my nose and voted for Kamala, but 2016, 2020, and 2024 should have been cakewalks for Dems but they refuse to win the easy races by picking the worst candidates, sure 2020 fell for Dems but that wasn’t for lack of trying to lose. The Democrat party keeps putting their fingers on the scale for the losing option in the primaries.
Here nor there. 2024 should have been a no-brainer. And from the results…
It truly was.
If you want me to vote, run candidates that represent my interests.
Stop telling the progressives to ‘fall in line.’ Start telling it to the neo-liberals.
Exhibit A
Save that energy for the next election cycle and direct it towards everyone voting for the establishment candidates.
If you can convince enough of them to nominate a candidate that supports the working class (you know, I actually voted here) then you can count on seeing me at the polls in the general election.
This guy has been annoying as all hell, blaming me for not voting after I stated I did… lol
I have so many idiot friends who said “I’m not voting for Harris cause of Israel”. I’m betting that line was a plant by the Republicans or Putin. but it stuck. and my friends bought it hook line and sinker.
line was a plant
Didn’t need to be, the whole point of the Israel support was to sow the division. It was designed to be a no-win scenario on the left, orchestrated by the right, and the dino’s. The defense contractors win, there’s a stock angle to play and the collapse of support for the left.
The truth is, the left is not listening. They haven’t been for a long time. But not voting left wasn’t about to change any of that. Half the left is owned by the right. This takeover wasn’t overnight, it was over decades. Even if we managed to squeek in Harris, it would only have been another 4-8 years and we’d be back here.
Unless something drastic happens, we will stay a fascist dictatorship.
Yep. They sure as shit did.
Just people with principles. This “non voters cost us the election” is a nonsense division tactic. Stop going after people for voting their conscience and morals. You’re just making it easier for the fascists.
Not all non voters are equal thanks to our shitty election system. Swing states, ill give you that one. Those folks contributed but are still not the reason he won. Some dude in Michigan who sat out is not the same as a dude in Tennessee. One matters much more than the other.
I choked back my vomit (yet again) to participate in a process I abhor and yet again it didnt amount to shit. Maybe work on getting that extra third of the electorate instead of kneecapping a portion who will show up if you’re reasonable because you need them. And no, i don’t believe supporting genocide is reasonable.
Just people with principles.
idealists are a liability. naive suckers.
Lol. Idealists because they don’t support people who lie and tell them they are working towards an end to a genocide when they arent? A lie they have now admitted?
Democrats shovel their lies about working toward a ceasefire and naive people eat it up. I showed up and voted against my principles and morals yet again despite knowing it was a lie and centrists in the democratic party still cant help but blame other people for their own failures.
It wasn’t the left that cost Kamala the spot. It was 70million fascists.
70million fascists.
sounds like we need a final solution then.
You’re just making it easier for the fascists.
Letting the fascists win the presidency and both houses in the election made things a hell of a lot easier for them.
I get the perspective, i do. But this is part the problem. The center are mad because the left took a stand when they were ignored. Now the center want to punch left as always instead of concentrating on the enemy at hand even when the left still showed up.
Focusing on a minority of people and blaming them instead of the tens of millions who made that decision consciously is only hurting the side trying to fight it and at the same time alienating the people who actually fight fascists consistently. It is self defeating. How does nobody else see this?
Or, here’s the apparently radical third option… do what the voters want and reel Bibi/Givir/Smotrich in, or at the very least stop giving Israel outright political cover. “Israel gets to do war crimes and/or genocide… and you pay for it” was a uni-party stance in the 2024 cycle, and it’s fucking infuriating. I expect the right to back Israel reflexively, but I did NOT expect to see y’all pull the mental gymnastics make yourselves be okay with it. And then have the gall to shout down and bully away criticism of the party’s complicity.
If your candidate can mostly be summed up as “less shit” then that damning sales pitch to get the ‘apolitical normie’ vote out to win elections s. Kamala barely stood tall on any firm policy - let along a coherent platform, didn’t distance herself sufficiently from Biden, and didn’t respond to voters’ legitimate economic anxieties. At that point a demonstrable lies become the sound bites differentiating Trump from Kamala.
If their candidate is the only thing standing between a half-assed working system of government, and an outright dictatorship- and you don’t vote for them…
well, we see very well what happens, don’t we?
I don’t know about you, but I sure as shit am glad we dodged that “no policy having, pro-democracy” bullet, eh?
I mean… things are SO much better without that obnoxious democracy getting in the way.
If their candidate is the only thing standing between a half-assed working system of government, and an outright dictatorship- and you don’t vote for them…
I did, so put the straw man away. In a swing state, because I understand that at a minimum I’m negating someone else’s R vote. I’m following politics outside the election cycle and aware of the FPTP game. You can make the “less shit” argument to me, and have it work because I recognize it’s true.
But that’s exactly my point about the apolitical and/or low propensity ‘normie’ voters - Trump has confidence and an answer for everything, if you ignore the absence of details. Harris struggled/refused to define herself and her platform - effectively giving that job to the media and the opposition. “Everything will stay fundamentally the same” was a vote loser for most of America this cycle, and that was the Democratic platform.
I don’t know about you, but I sure as shit am glad we dodged that “no policy having, pro-democracy” bullet, eh?
In a way, kinda? Trump is on a fascism speed run through the Project 2025 goals, and has a sycophantic circle of incompetence around him that keeps making blunders atop his own. Going this hard and this fast has had blowback, with him tanking his approval rating accordingly in record time.
Were he an actually steady hand that could play long chess, build coalitions, and quietly place plans in motion? Deport worst-of-the-worst criminals instead of literally whoever is brown, quietly subvert NATO and hamstring the unified command instead of JD and Hegseth chastising Europe and openly questioning Article 5, give Israel/Saudis a browbeating in public whilst increasing arms sales instead of ‘hell yeah, kill them all’ tweets, etc
Effective dictatorship I fear a lot more than an incompetent strongman. People bend and mold themselves to the former over time, the latter rips off the bandage too fast and pisses off voters who form resistance coalitions.
If the dems wanted to win, Bernie would have been our candidate in 2016, not Hillary. If the dems weren’t working for the same people the reps are, Harris would have taken over as president when it was CLEAR that Biden was not fit to lead anymore. If the dems wanted to prevent fascism, they would have had an election to decide who the candidate will be, not just stick Harris in and tell us to vote for her.
Excuse me, but if I remember correctly, wasn’t that election one with the most people voting ever? Kind of odd to be blaming non-voters when the voting turnout was a lot larger than usual.
Where do you get your news?
I hope they have the life they voted for.
Same.
Nicely put. And on an ozma post to boot.
#resistance #liberal
Because no one deserves it more.
Truly the most evil demographic of people, non-voters.
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the non-voters either dint bother voter, or said it doesnt affect them right now.
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I rest my case.
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You didn’t vote. And you’re running away to allow everyone else to deal with it?
Yeah. Please. GTFO.
Your comment won’t be popular here in the fediverse among Americans, and neither will mine, likely. But as an American I wanted to say I can appreciate your position. What OP’s rant looks like to an outsider is almost the same as what OP is complaining about. I get that a vote for Dems was just a vote for a less shitty situation close to home. To someone whose family is being killed by American supplied arms it is fascist shit all the way down. The schadenfreude you are feeling toward America is the same as that OP is expressing toward non-voters. Some version of, “How do you like the results of your shitty actions?”
Being in the thick of it I have a hard time with the “tear it all down as fast as possible” position. But, I get it.
Upvoted for bringing broader perspectives to Lemmy. Whatever comes next we can’t afford not to see the bigger/biggest picture.
Thank you for this, the contempt the original comment shows how very unprinciplaled they are: missing the forest for the trees and throwing their brothers and sisters under.
throwing their brothers and sisters under.
No, you did this by refusing to vote against it. Now you walk away from them, having not even tried to save them.
Jfc 3 times i voted for harris, if you stop assuming shit maybe you’ll make less of a fool of yourself.
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Now put here your copypasta about ranked voting!
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No, the correct paraphrasing is
“When given the choice between a less than perfect, but educated, compliant and compassionate candidate, or Hitler-without-class, pick the first one, otherwise you’ll get the second.”
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I rest my case.
Maybe one day you will realize it is the complete and willing ineptitude of democrats domestically and their never-ending bloodlust in foreign policy that got us here in the first place and then you will be correct when you righteously shake your fists while scolding them.
It’s a big maybe.
How’s all that nothing you did working out for Gaza right now, bud? Happy for your decisions? No? Yeah, I get that. I see it too and it’s a huge bummer. Well…
Did your lack of effort do well for your loved ones in the LGBTQ+? No? Okay, well…
What about all the women in your life? Do you think your inaction helped them in a way you fell they deserved?
Meh…
Either way, I’m not debating this shit with you. You’re unhinged and incapable of being reasoned with.
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I think I already said I’m not going to argue with your unhinged rhetoric.
Lol
if you truly believe what you just said, then i assume you are currently plotting to overthrow the current admin. otherwise, you’re just an armchair quarterback or working for the other side.
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When you are done on your soapbox, maybe talk about what can be done instead of who you blame.
The bed is made, all we have left to do now is lie in it.
Moving forward, the best thing that can happen from this is to ensure that those that caused it see the damage they helped create so that if we ever have the opportunity again, they’ll have learned from it.
And I’ll be on this soapbox until I feel like I’ve said my fucking peace.
Block me.
So what exactly are you doing to clean up the Democrat Party of a leadership who managed to lose against none other than Donald Trump, TWICE?
Or are you just another tribalist muppet that thinks “the chief is always right and needs not concede anything to anybody and it’s everybody else who has to just do what the chief wants” hence rages against those who are not of your tribe and didn’t follow the wishes of your “chiefs” rather than against your “chiefs” for not even trying to appeal to those other people?
Because it would’ve been way easier for the handful of people in the Democrat Party leadership to, rather than totally refusing to care as they did, listen to and start addressing the concerns of the millions who were hesitant in voting Democrat, than for those millions of voters to magically change their minds when the party which should have been trying to appeal to them couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their worries.
Singlehandedly giving .world it’s reddit archetype.
Yawn…
I rEsT mY cAsE
“We should punish those who objected to a broken system” sounds pretty fascist to me.
They punished themselves just fine.
praise the lord, but really… it’s time to think about what the people have to do to reign this nightmare in.
i agree with rhoeri, but you make an excellent point. the past is the past. we can learn from our mistakes when we have a future to look forward to.
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Additionally,
“This comes as House Republicans have proposed a bill that would charge people arriving at a U.S. port of entry $1,000 in order to file an asylum claim — and a $3,500 fee for those sponsoring children. The right to seek asylum is a fundamental human right enshrined in international law, and the U.S. has never before charged petitioners.”
This is enough grounds for impeachment.
Everything he does can be grounds for impeachment, but if the republicans control all branches of government even if impeached (he was impeached 3 times last time) they will never remove him from office.
EDIT: Y’all notice a common pattern on all those “peace officers” on the picture?
They all look like Confederate zombies taken from the pages of the Time Life Book The Civil War and their family tree is a pole?
They all seem like they whistle Dixie?
I’ve written this multiple times in the last few months. I’ll keep doing it because people need to get the message: There isn’t going to be an impeachment, and even if there were, it would fail.
The impeachment process requires cooperation from both houses of congress. A simple majority in the house of representatives must vote to approve articles of impeachment. Then the Senate decides what to do with them. They can hold a trial or they can just vote. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority of the Senate. This is why both attempts to impeach Trump previously already failed. The Senate Republicans simply moved to an immediate vote and killed it.
Now, consider that Republicans currently hold a majority in both houses. THERE WILL BE NO IMPEACHMENT barring a major upset in the midterm elections. Even then it is almost guaranteed to fail. Impeachment is not going to save us.
i think everyone realises that there will be no impeachment, but it’s useful to point out that any single 1 of these acts SHOULD result in impeachment and that it’s REPUBLICANS as a whole that are betraying their role in the system; not ONLY a single man
Exactly.
I dunno about you, but I wanna see how many impeachments Trump can rack up before he leaves office/dies. I’m hoping for at least triple digits.
A second order further militarizes local police departments, while providing legal resources to officers accused of abuses; it also seeks to undo federal consent decrees for departments that have committed civil rights abuses and seeks to punish local officials who “unlawfully prohibit law enforcement officers from carrying out duties.”
That’s not militarization, it’s promoting lawlessness and removing any remaining accountability.
Seattle PD literally had to be partially taken over by the federal government because it was so corrupt and would not curb its officers… this is going to be VERY problematic in Seattle and surrounding areas.
By definition the federal government will return Seattle PD back into what it was, but with federal backing and technical support.
I’m in a smaller city and even our local PD has two apcs. This is a nightmare.
In all honesty if they have to APCs then they have one APC maybe half an APC, those things are designed with military logistics in mind so their parts are easy to replace if not particularly robust.
Have you not wondered why they keep trying to get the military involved? It’s because they think the military is above the law and can just shoot anyone and do what they want.
Never vote for another fucking establishment democrat ever again.
They always fucking lie and say they can’t do anything, then a republican comes into office and does EVERYTHING.
Fuck everyone who voted against Bernie in the primaries.
Upset with Democrats for following the rules and blame them when Republicans break the law? We want all parties to follow the rules, not more politicians commiting crime to get their way.
Rules? The democrats talk about having their hands tied and they can’t do shit, and only float ideas around. Ideas that never materialize. The Republicans then claim the dems are dictators and do as they please and all the chaos is from their ideas that were never implemented. You know the green new deal and defund the police? Nothing of the green new deal ever happened, but the Republicans acted as if everything was fully enact. And police funding actually soared during their administrations, but Republicans act like all police forces were gutted (remember the cowardly police action at Uvalde? They claim it was the police defunding that caused it when the Uvalde PD’s funding was never touched).
I sometimes wished we lived in the fantasy world Republican propagandists say we live in. If we did, ironically none of the fascists we see online or on TV would be around since they would all be conveniently ‘disappeared’.
Welcome to the police state, y’all
So…those of you who have lived though things like this, realistically what can an individual do?
Im talking beyond voting. Stock up on things? Get to know all my neighbors?
Because of an earlier Executive order, ICE (and related law enforcement) no longer needs to have a warrant. Now we are talking about militarizing local police forces. What happens if my family and I get disappeared?
Organize. Organize. And organize.
Not speaking from experience, but if history has taught us anything, the best course of action is practicing mutual aid. Talk to locals. And arm yourselves.
Many Germans were wondering the same thing nearly a hundred years ago.
Some of them decided to move while they still had the chance. You could say it’s traditional to move across the ocean if your country becomes a totalitarian dictatorship. The other options aren’t that nice though. Once the system falls apart you could be judged for just going with the flow.
Where can Americans even go? It’s not like immigrating is easy, most of us can’t afford it and Western Europe is no guarantee considering vlad is breathing down their neck
Plenty of places for Americans to go, but they have to give up some of their luxuries and entitlement.
If you face:
- danger of torture
- risk to your life
- risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/asylum/in-canada/eligibility.html
If you enter Canada from the U.S.
[…]
Your claim may not be eligible if you entered Canada from the U.S.:- at an official land border crossing
or - anywhere along the border, including rivers, lakes and other waterways, and made a refugee claim less than 14 days after the day that you entered
Those are some pretty interesting conditions. Sounds like in order to make this work, you shouldn’t enter through an official land border crossing. Instead, you should enter through other means (plane, ship, rocket), but you should also just chill out as a tourist for two weeks before making a refugee claim. Makes me wonder what’s the rationale behind this.
Yeah, I don’t quite get it myself. The only thing I can think of is that it might be designed for American citizens living abroad, but I can’t quite figure out why there either.
Maybe it’s just being onerous enough to discourage all but the most serious attempts.
Canada and some European countries have accepted refugees from the US but from what I’ve read it’s incredibly rate and requires and extraordinary amount of proof that your life is under threat and you have no other choice than to move to those countries.
Occasionally, I watch some queer videos on YT, just to see how they see the world from their perspective. Recently, the tone has shifted and some are even advising other people to go back into the closet. Especially gender minorities appear to be afraid of what’s going on these days. Maybe someone in that category could convincingly claim that their life is in danger. I wonder if it also applies to gay people.
I’d imagine that’s because of the STCA, but there seems to be a loophole where it doesn’t apply if you enter via water and don’t claim refugee status before 14 days.
If I were really determined, I’d at least ask an immigration lawyer about it, and then I’d plan on taking a 2 week camping trip in Canada when I thought shit was likely to go down.
Come to South Australia!
Vlad can’t do shit in Western Europe. The bigger danger are our own right wing assholes pushed by Russia, American owned (social) media and TikTok
No country is going to be welcoming to refugees from a shithole country like America, and our notorious reputation for arrogance isn’t going to work on our favor.
If you have a lot of money, or have an in-demand skill, perhaps they’ll take you, but any American in a new country is going to face the same difficulties that immigrants in America face - discrimination, crime, exploitation, difficulty in finding jobs, bigotry, etc.
Better to stay in America and fight back.
Check in with friends and family regularly. If you go missing, have them report it and call your lawyer.
Ideally you wouldn’t let them take you alive, since CECOT is a death sentence anyway.
All my neighbors are MAGA
you should ‘do something’ about that.
Removed by mod
Why was this removed?
“War has been declared, again Everyone’s too busy living paycheck to paycheck to notice. Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives”
Removed for rule 1: Be civil
He seems like he was being pretty civil to me. Way more civil than a lot of other comments I see calling people names just because they disagree.
On a side note, posts like his could be deleted without any evidence it was made at all on reddit. Glad we have the modlog to help keep mods accountable and fight back against censorship.
not a person of color to be seen for miles and miles of this fucking picture. until later when these pale pink fucks are turned loose against anyone not them.
easily led shit bird white christian dog shit eating idiots allowed this while swearing they’d never allow it to happen.
lol. that one christian downvoted you.
fuck you christians. we’re coming for you once this shit is over.
My first reaction when seeing the pic: “look at all them rednecks!”
Don’t sully mine kin with thine comparison. These fuckwads are white trash, feed them to the Joshua trees.
Lookit all them black hats!
