“The Constitution is clear,” Miller told reporters outside the White House. “The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So, to say that’s an option we’re actively looking at … a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not.”

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    Genuinely surprised no one in the US who was about to be a victim of state sanctioned kidnapping has decided death is preferable to CECOT and just started [redacted] ICE agents.

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        Depends on what you’re hoping to achieve. Victory and survival? Very unlikely if alone. Multiple casualties, a lifetime of trauma for the rest and a reason to think twice before kicking in the next door? Achievable alone with planning and drill, I think.

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            In spirit yeah, and thats unfortunately true. But I think that what Im really trying to get at here (and now that I boil it down, it seems pretty “yeah no shit”) is that I think there’s value to, I guess I’ll say "Sober consideration of one’s final options and conduct if ever forced suddenly into a life or death situation. In fact, it’s so no-shit that I’m gonna delete this comment after leaving it up long enough for you to see it and know it’s not something insulting

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          i don’t think most people have the energy to plot a rambo standoff with paramilitaries, who don’t generally announce what they’re doing in advance.

          i’m not shittalking resistance, i promise, but we cannot expect people to spontaneously develop a consciousness and militancy, even in extreme conditions. that’s what organizing is for

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            I agree with your assessment, I just wasn’t sure. I’ve just seen a lot of people (to be fair, mostly liberals) doing that thing where they immediately take any talk of last-minute resistance as useless, a foregone waste of time, a larp, ect, and i dont think that kind of talk helps anyone. Not that I think you’re engaging in it, I’ve just felt the need lately to push a little in the other direction in those exchanges and remind people, without slipping into rambo fantasies, what’s historically possible with a little resources and dedication. But you’re right, those examples are aspirational and cannot be expected from most disorganized individuals.

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              i support this. i just treat hexbear like a place where everyone is a jaded activist already so i’m less concerned with the public-facing shit.

              some hexbeariens are new though, so your approach is still instructive and valuable