You can’t debate his commitment to the cause. He started with himself.
Reddit is nuking posts about this.
Of course they are, otherwise people might want the anti-natalism subreddits banned, and that’s where the CIA recruits 90% of their
these days.
Not just anti-natalist, they were an EFILite so they wanted to extinguished all life in existence.
First Anime-American suicide bomber
I read this whole thing and the words “despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil” crashed through the roof and destroyed my fish tank.
I’m not a psycho, but…
A true nihilist would have just killed himself and been done with it. Instead overdose of liberalism and hyper individualism makes people just not want to live, but also make a show of murdering other people, because the “show” puts them and their ego on the center stage.
he shits on nihilism in the (alleged) manifesto
Really didnt have a anime-brainedpoisoned new-athiest anti-natalist carmakazi bomber on my 2025 bingo card.
But here we are.
right wing ideology repackaged into faux concern about the suffering of other people. Could have done a Luigi or Rodney L Hinton but noo, why would you do something that benefits society and maybe improves material conditions or sends a message to the rich elite / their cronies.
This is what happens when a culture doesn’t understand happiness isn’t the end goal of life. Consumerism which promotes idea of earning your happiness through constant self-improvement has its logical conclusion in this idea that all which isn’t happy or striving for happiness through consumption is wasted. This is functionally same ideology as those social media life coaches selling the hustle grindset.
This is what a few hundred years of capitalism does to people
The last paragraph really drives home that this person just led a fucked up and depressing existence, and then, on top of that, a close friend dying/being murdered/suiciding in a clearly confusing arrangement.
I dunno. I don’t feel overly angry at this person, what they’ve done is utterly and truly awful and should never have been done. But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world. I’m extremely mad at our shit society that frequently lets people get to this point without helping them or really giving a shit.
Yeah this was very close to my worldview after a life of trauma, until I slowly shifted towards leftism then Marxism. A sort of reification of mental illness and despair into a quasi-ideology.
It takes more than a nudge for these feelings to develop into a belief system and produce results like this. The West expends so much energy eradicating leftist thought from the culture, giving unmaterialist and destructive ideologies like this an evolutionary advantage. Not to mention how many cases like this are likely enabled/influenced/caused by feds.
I’m mostly just sad.
But I can see how an awful life like that could totally warp your view of the world.
yeah i’m not gonna go bomb a fertility clinic but my life has been predominately suffering and it would be a crime to force someone to live many of our lives.
Post contains ableism, r-slur, discussion and encouragement of self-harm, links to transphobia, anti-furry, anti-autism, probably more toxic content but noped out.
[self-harm, speculation]
Says a close friend had her boyfriend shoot her in the head while sleeping sometime in the last 28 days, links to her social media where she says she’s an aro wlw terf, says he told her he would soon follow if she ever went through with it since he’d never find someone else who would understand him.
He seems to plainly admit to a lot of heinous things, so maybe not a reason to lie about it, but I suspect this may be a murder-suicide.
Also have an awful feeling despite all the awful stuff, carnists are going to focus on “he was a vegan” like they vegetarianjacket hitler to try to justify their unethical behahiour.
Yeah I saw that too. After leaving the mod team of vegan circlejerk that whole community was tied to antinatalism and it upset me to see that. I wrote a statement on it and this for the vegan theory club:
https://vegantheoryclub.org/post/1589146 https://hexbear.net/post/4951471
So that’s what happened to VCJ, I pretty much stopped reading it after the antinatalism stuff started popping up all over that sub. Sucks, because I always thought that was one of the only good subs on that shithole site and as sad as it is to admit, the posts on there making fun of carnists and vegetarians helped me go vegan.
Hundreds of people have told me that it helped them go vegan while I modded it from 2018 - 2023 but the increasing scrutiny of the admins was annoying, having my long time account HamidPayaamAbbasi get banned, and it was starting to make me mad having to sign into reddit and approve everything. When all the anarchists stepped down it was left to a few libs who started the antinatalism shit.
My goodbye from reddit post was this
(random bad guy) didn’t eat meat so actually somehow that makes you bad too and im good for eating an animal that was kept in a tiny box since it was a baby to stop its bones from getting hard and keep its meat soft. im not basically perpetuating a holocaust at all.
I thought Hitler was a vegetarian, not fully vegan.
He wasn’t even vegetarian. He still are meat, just infrequently since it upset his stomach
Like if people that is going to use it to attack veganism cares about the difference
Legit had a carnist tell me verbatim just the other day that “the Nazis were the first people to take animal rights seriously.”
Anti-natalism isn’t the problem here, it’s lack of understanding. What does blowing up a fertility clinic really accomplish in the long run.
I say this as an anti-natalist with a pro-mortalist lean. All this person did was increase suffering in the world, for no reason.
There are bad actors in every group, but the vast majority of these people (i.e. antinatalists) do not engage in acts of violence.
Painting them with this brush would be like pointing at parents who abuse their children and then saying that all parents abuse their children. It’s obvious bullshit.
I may not represent the majority opinion for these ideologies, because I don’t spend my free time in these communities, but I’ll try to sum up my thoughts on taking actions informed by this kind of thinking.
Good anti-natalists with any measure of forethought should very quickly come to the conclusion that small scale terrorism doesn’t do anything to solve the crisis of new life, or to reduce suffering- which is supposed to be the goal.
Good pro-mortalists, if given the opportunity to solve all suffering once and for all, should very quickly come to the conclusion that regardless of their thoughts on the bigger questions, it isn’t up to them or anyone else to press that button or turn that key.
Its delusional thinking to believe that just because you know everyone is probably better off dead, other people shouldn’t be allowed to go on suffering, or to bring about another generation of sufferers, if that’s what they choose to do.
If you are heavily pro-mortalist, and you think life would be better off dead; Congratulations, the laws of physics are on your side! Every source of heat and life that has ever existed will inevitably be snuffed out and the universe will just be a bunch of cold little rocks, which will continue to get further and further away from eachother until they’re eventually just little islands of nothing, in an ocean of nothing, screaming off into nothing.
You win in the end, no reason to rush things.
Is anyone else increaseingly worried they’ll get taken out by one of these maniacs. America is so unsafe, but everyone acts like its nbd. I hate it. I dream of the day I’m in China and won’t have to worry im gonna get blown up, or shot randomly while grocery shopping or something.
By the most alienated idiot with the most stupid “ideology”
One of my biggest fears is being killed by one of these people, but specifically in large part because of the indignity of being killed by one of these types of jackasses.
Misanthropy with Mass Effect characteristics.
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As someone who is trans and fled the United States recently because of the political situation- The psychic damage from constantly being exposed to mass shootings and other attacks is real and it does affect quality of life and I think it’s rude as hell to paint people as cowards for wanting to emigrate.
I didnt see the comment you replied to before it got deleted but i can kinda guess what it was since ive seen similar sentiment before. I appreciate you replying to it for me. The whole thing kinda baffles me. Arent leftists supposed to be pro-immigration? My grandparents werent even born here. They left a place my ancestors lived for thousands of years, and im supposed to stick around in this horrible place we’ve only been in for like 50 years? Why?
People will tell me like i need to “stay and fight for a better America.” Like why the fuck would i do that? I might be American on paper (for now) but culturally i am not. I hate this place. The people i love arent American for the most part. I don’t celebrate the same holidays as most Americans. I dont eat the same foods as them.
The geographical location of your birth does not and should not dictate who you are, and what you can do. Period.
the other part of it was that it’s a privilege to be able to leave, which i think stands but calling folks cowards for getting out definitely isn’t appropriate.
my net worth is literally negative and i live below the poverty line lmao thats so funny. Im just betting on getting a job in China once i get a degree and never coming back to the US so i don’t have to pay back student loans.
yeah that would be my plan if i was younger and neurologically able to get a degree
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How’s it on the outside
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least brainwormed burger
This needs a CW for the ableism buried way deep in the middle of this weird ass manifesto. And many other things actually
