cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/114611927184686873

Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)

https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
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>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.

>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…

#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe

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    7 days ago

    Death threats are not 1A-protected free speech. So terrorism charges against those making the threats, yes?

    /we all know the answer to that question

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      Terrorism charges don’t really mean much anymore. You can call anything terrorism at this point. They will need something less generic.

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        You can call anything terrorism at this point.

        you know, except a white, right wing, man, who commits mass murder, for ideological reasons

        Those are lone wolves, and tragically mentally ill, of course

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    Can we all agree. A certain percentage of Zionists people. Are blood thirsty monsters? And they should be taken out before they can harm other people. Preferably put in prison.

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        I would say the same thing about the J word. But you get banned if you say the J word. So Zionist it is.

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          You don’t get banned for saying “Jews”. You WILL get banned for saying the Jews should be exterminated, or that “100% of Jews…”

          We do not tolerate hate speech, no matter who it’s directed at.

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            To my understanding Jew is not perjorative but could be in context eg if offense is obviously intended or if mention of ethnicity or religion is otherwise irrelevant.

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              Correct, there’s nothing perjorative about “Jews”, but the overall context can be concerning.

              People get all hot and bothered and start conflating “Jews” with “Israelis” and “Zionists”.

              You can be a non-Israeli Jew. You can be a non-Jewish Zionist, they don’t all mean the same thing.

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              It’s more that pretending certain groups are a monolith, or really pretending anything is something it’s not, to justify hate speech is banned. Sure, it’s easy to pretend that all Jews are Zionists (ergo all Jews are pro-genocide) but it’s demonstrably untrue and just lazy thinking.

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                Most Jewish people are pro Israel and amongst those who are most religious or Orthodox most rises to an overwhelming majority.

                This isn’t pretending an ethic group has negative characteristics from a stereotype this is acknowledging an actual view most in a group have.

                Most Americans are pro Christianity. Even if you view Christianity negatively it’s ok to say Americans are infatuated with the trappings if not the actual virtues of Christianity because it’s true even if this isn’t true of every single one of us.

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                  Right, but “most” is not “monolith.” There’s around 16 million jews worldwide, so even if 90% of jews are pro-zionist that’s still over a million non-zionist jews. List of Jewish anti-Zionist organizations. Generalizations about groups of people are harmful even if they’re true, because it’s unfair to the those who don’t fit the generalization.

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          “A certain percentage of rhombuses have four equal sides.”

          “I think that percentage is 100.”

          “I would say the same about rectangles, but you get banned if you say rectangles. So rhombuses it is.”

          Not all rectangles are rhombuses. And not all rhombuses are rectangles. Don’t be racist and you won’t get banned.

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          anti-zionist jews are some of the loudest voices and most crucial organizers of resistance against the zionist occupation of palestine. fuck right off you antisemitic piece of shit.

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            I’m not an anti-Semite. I’m from a similar tribe as Jewish people. I just have family who lived through their own genocide and I have no patience for people perpetrating genocide in the this modern era. If I can’t be objective against this group for what I have anecdotally experienced. Then what do you call that? Because that’s not free speech. I don’t call people names or call them slurs.

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              A: what exactly is a “similar tribe as Jewish people”? Like, Arabic? Cause that doesn’t exactly preclude being racist against Jews…

              B: my man, you literally just said that all Jews are blood thirsty monsters, and they should be taken out before they can harm other people. You can’t seriously think you can somehow flip that around as some sort of enlightened anti-genocide platform.

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                Friendly reminder that even being Jewish doesn’t preclude being racist against Jews.

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                I am not who you replied to, but my guesses:

                A: Romani B: The post they were replying “100%” to specified zionists.

                While I do not agree 100% of zionists are bloodthirsty monsters I do believe any people who claim some holy right to a land are inevitably going to commit atrocities to take or defend their magic dirt.

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                  I’m gonna attach a screenshot so you can see that yes, the post they were replying to did indeed say Zionists, and they made it about all Jews. Not sure what exactly you’re trying to say with point B.

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                Armenian. Our genetics show up as Jewish on 23 and me because we are similar tribes from wayyyyyyyyyy back. I also had my entire male side of my family killed in the Armenian genocide. And my aunts turned into slave sex workers for the Turks.

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          To be clear, you’re saying that you would say that 100% of Jews should be “taken out,” except that this would get you banned?

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            Absolutely not. I would say zionists need to be stopped judiciously. Through the human rights courts and other organizations. This is all their making. We need to stop them before they start a nuclear war.

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      Is that percentage 100%? Because any desire to take land without any respect for the ones living there for thousands of years has a certain… Lebensraum ambience attached to it

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      A certain percentage of all people are bloodthirsty monsters, especially when it comes to people unlike themselves.

      And anyone who thinks this problem is caused by no one trying to use a bomb, gun, or flamethrower to solve it is the biggest idiot in planet earth.

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      Basically we need to stop being captain america and lean towards being the punisher.

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      Same with other side right?

      A certain percentage of all humans with personal causes are blood thirsty monsters.

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        Yes, but most bloodthirsty monsters don’t get to use advanced military weapons and don’t receive billions in aide to seek blood

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      Yeah I feel like years ago someone would have had to step down from their position and quit politics in shame for such a dishonorable statement.

      Hoping someone shoots missiles and sinks civilians trying to feed the poor. What a terrible soul.

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    If Mossad had been given orders to kill her, she wouldn’t have made it to the boat. (It’d have been a “hit-and-run accident”, or a previously undiagnosed allergy or something. The people speculating that Mossad assassinated her would be dismissed as cranks, and would be right entirely by coincidence.)

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      You’re over-estimating the Mossad. ALL the previous assassinations were carried out in a primitive way and got linked back to them in a short time.

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        That’s availability bias. Do you know how many they carried out that weren’t discovered as such?

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          No I don’t, do you?

          You could use this logic on anything and it gets ridiculous rather quickly.

          Should I assume also that Mozambique intelligence carried out a gazillion sophisticated stealth assassinations that none of us has discovered yet? we don’t have the count too, right?

          (I can list some much more ridiculous examples, this logic doesn’t work, here’s the alternative: 0 evidence so far of any of that happened -> it’s safe to assume it never did until proven wrong)

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            Should I assume also that Mozambique intelligence carried out a gazillion sophisticated stealth assassinations that none of us has discovered yet?

            No, but if you claimed that they never carried out a single one specifically with the argument that none was ever discovered you’d be falling for the same logical fallacy.

            Also, compared to Mozambique, you know that Israel has far higher technological capabilities, a certain international backing and is in semi constant war alternating between cold and hot with most of it’s neghbour states, which makes one more likely to have both the need and the means to have successfully carried out secret killings than the other.

            Especially since x (too lazy to research right now) assassinations by Mossad were discovered and linked to them, so you know they do kill people. And from there you basically claim they get discovered 100% of the time. Which is ridiculous.

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              That’s a very weird logic. If I claim I have super powers and there are 0 documented cases of me doing anything super natural, you have to be the one to prove I don’t have such super powers??

              You see how ridiculous this sounds? I am saying it gets ridiculous really quick.

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                If I claim I have super powers and there are 0 documented cases of me doing anything super natural,

                Is it somehow hard for you to understand that there literally cannot be documented cases of Mossad killing someone and not being linked to it, because as soon as they were documented cases, they would be linked to it?

                What theoretical evidence would you even need to believe in them being able to kill someone in secret?

                Furthermore, your comparison doesn’t hold water because you’re turning the logic on it’s head. You are the one claiming Clark Kent does not have superpowers because there are lots of documented cases of him taking the bus instead of super-flying to where he wants to be.

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                  Mozambique intelligence carried out way more sophisticated super secret stealth assassinations in collaboration with aliens and you cannot prove they didn’t happen.

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      Lol, people should stop thinking that intelligence agencies are all powerful. They fumble and fuck up stuff all the time.

      That said, the current Israeli government under the current political situation might very well arrange this basically as a public execution, knowing that western media will present it in the right light for them.

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    Bad headline. They are advocating for killing her. They are not threatening to kill her because most of the people mentioned do not have the power to do so. I could threaten to arrest Netenyahu but it would not be a credible threat because that’s not within my power at all. But I can post online in favour of the idea.

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          They’re being lobbied to pursue charges against a children show host for expressing sympathy for starving children.

          Precedent shows they follow the instructions of the lobbyists with the biggest and/or most recent check.

          So it’d be a strongly worded statement of support for the extrajudicial slaying of a human rights activist, because that’s already the norm.