How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?
You misunderstand. Cops in the US have no legal obligation to protect OR serve anyone. Check out the NY subway guy that was attacked with a knife while cops watched from 10 feet away behind bulletproof glass. They literally hid in the conductor booth and watched this guy get stabbed in the fucking face repeatedly.
Not only did the guy survive, he actually overpowered and subdued the attacker. Guy brought a suit against the NYPD for failing to protect him when their motto at the time was literally “Protect and serve”. Long story short, the end result is that he got a real live judge to say out loud that police have no actual duty to protect you when it could endanger themselves. Coupled with your observation on the obesity of American cops, it could be argued that walking down the street to issue a ticket could be lethal for the cop in question and therefore they have no obligation to do it, they simply choose to do it out of spite.
I think once you pass the physical strength/endurance exam to become a cop, you don’t have to take any to remain one. I definitely think that should change, though. Make them pass once a year to retain their job.
Fuck the physical part, they should take yearly psychological exams and have continuous education on conflict resolution.
They don’t even have to pass those if they don’t want to. In portions of America it is just: win an election, appoint your friends and lackies.
A lot of departments use the admission tests to screen out candidates who might be overqualified: they specifically won’t want the best. An overwight blob is preferable to an in shape individual that might think before acting.
There are definitely agencies that do exactly what you described. The one I’m most familiar with has a sliding scale based on age and they are required to pass annually.
How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?
They don’t serve anyone
What? They definitely serve rich people. Why do you think they were created?
Or protect. They might protect those donuts tho.
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Cops serve capital, not us.
Many departments don’t require physical tests once hired.
Most of the work cops do is domestic disturbance calls and traffic stops. There’s no reason to be physically fit for either of those jobs. Also, most people see the day shift and in nicer neighborhoods; again there’s really no need for physicality. Getting on day shift and good area means you’ve been on the police a while and “earned it” (or you have some clout), so usually olderish cops.
The young jacked mfers usually are on the night shift and in rougher neighborhoods.
Additionally, a bullet resistant vest and all the gear will make you look bigger/fatter than you really are.
So it’s kind of a combo of all that.
Also, ACAB
Plus they’re not going to run you down, they’re going to taser you in the back and watch you face plant into the asphalt. They don’t give a fuck. They’re going to dog pile and twist your arm until you “comply”, no need to communicate more than that. Comply or die. Bullet will outrun you every time. Fuck cops.
And when they show up on a domestic dispute, they’ll take the abusers side so that they don’t have to risk any form of conflict. The battered spouse isn’t going to fight you if you try to arrest them! (2 and half years now - no answers or report on why “your husband wants to move in a prostitute - time for you to leave” happened)
to protect and serve is not their job.
“protect and serve” is copaganda, since SCOTUS ruled on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia in late 1981. “Fun” animated video to describe same: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0
Lookup Philip Brailsford. History of brutality, executed a pest control worker for doing his job with his own personal AR-15 engraved with “you’re fucked” on the side, there is full video evidence of the man crying and begging for his life on his knees with his hands on his head, Brailsford was rewarded for it with a full pension and an early retirement.
And this:
https://reason.com/2014/10/22/man-gets-stabbed-on-subway-guess-how-hel/Also used successfully as a precedent when the cowards waited in the hall while a shooter was on a rampage in a school a few years ago.
I think the subway stabbing is the main focus of the Cracked video I linked. But, maybe it’s a different subway stabbing.
It is, didn’t have time for a video.
Glad so many know these days what they are and do
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To protect and serve the rich
They are not required to serve and protect. US courts say so.
Our law enforcement is a huge joke and the meh pay, high turnover rate, and low bar of entry attracts the type of people you wouldn’t want to be associated with to begin with.
But also, why are small framed 5’3 women allowed to be police?
Fact is, most cops can’t outrun or overpower a lot of criminals who chose to resist or flee. In actuality that’s a pretty tiny part of the job. The rest is tickets, reports, paperwork, arrests with no resistance, investigations, etc. you don’t have to be an athlete or even very physically fit to do any of that. Id rather deal with a fat cop that isn’t a dick more than a slim one who’s a dumbass.
Why are they also so clearly low iq, and hyper violent?
and why are they paid so well?That’s by design.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Paid to keep the poor in place between wars.
Police forces deliberately filter out intelligent people because A) the job is mostly really boring, and smart people don’t like boring jobs, and 2) Smart people won’t put up with the open racism, corruption, and general bullshit of cops.
Ever notice on the news, that the local police chief always sounds like a swaggering, arrogant dumbass? It’s because he was promoted from a professional gene pool that was compromised from the start. He’s was just the biggest arrogant swaggering dumbass out of big pool of arrogant swaggering dumbasses.
Heard from a local cop that it had something to do with the union. If the department wants to implement a standard the union would require something or other. Something about an incentive? I didn’t get the whole picture obviously. I know police need unions in case somebody sues them but does seem kind of dumb that it’s so difficult to enforce a physical standard.
Now I dont work in the law enforcement industry but I do work in an industry that has supposed fitness requirements although they arent enforced.
For us, the union told them “If they have to maintain a weight of X to remain employed. You have to pay them to hit the gym on company time or pay their gym fees and an allowance.” So the company filed that away under “fuck that”. Now if you get too fat for the equipment they just move you to a different duty, often one with a shitload of walking around.
It’s a fair enough requirement from the union
Backfired big time too.
Most of the big older guys realised that walking around all day is actually a pretty low pressure and laid back gig even if you are on your feet all day and dont want to go back on the machines once they are getting like 20,000 steps a day and lose the weight.
NYPD is an army with offices around the world and pays as much as $600,000/year to individuals for pension.
They are not a police force; they are a Mafia.
Most small town.police forces are the same.
Their job is not to stop crime; it is to serve the wealthy and crush their opponents.
This is why every American should be armed at all times and ready to defend each other immediately.
Chicago is the same. The CPD union is basically a shadow government.
Guns.
i have been to the US several times. Have you ever tried to eat healthily?
you have to make your own food it’s the only way
Or be wealthy
and hire someone to cook your food or what
Its pretty easy. There’s fruits and vegetables all over that country lol
In my part of the world, cops are near on top of the food chain in any town and city, sometimes literally getting a free pass as long as they do something for a politician, a celebrity, or a business personality. So some of them, especially senior officers, do eventually get obese because not only they get to choose what duties they want to carry out, but also either they have three full square meals plus two snacks a day, or maybe a drinking party two to four times a month.
Of course they – the Philippine National Police – are a government agency, but also they’re a fraternity, the so-called “Brotherhood”: “you scratch my back as long as I scratch yours”.
to give an answer to a rhetorical question: because firing people based on weight is a can of worms being opened. while it’s still technically not illegal to fire someone because their weight makes them “unfit,” the ada can be invoked if said obesity is caused by a disorder (e.g., type 1 diabetes). this ignores the fact that it’s hard to prove that someone would be unfit just for their weight; it just opens up employers to lawsuits. a simpler way to think about it would be to ask yourself if the guy handing out speeding tickets is “unfit for duty” solely because he’s obese.
The easy way around this is to require passing regular fitness tests. If your obesity isn’t an impediment to the fitness test, then it shouldn’t be an impediment to your job.
