Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel’s right to defend itself.

“Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon,” declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

They pledged to “remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability.”

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    Iran is a special case. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west,

    You reversed it. The west made itself the enemy of iran

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      Elaborate…

      For others who don’t want the alternative history: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–United_States_relations

      Iranian explanations for the animosity with the United States include “the natural and unavoidable conflict between the Islamic system” and “such an oppressive power as the United States, which is trying to establish a global dictatorship and further its own interests by dominating other nations and trampling on their rights”, as well as the United States support for Israel (“the Zionist entity”).[11][12] In the West, however, different explanations have been considered,[1] including the Iranian government’s need for an external bogeyman to furnish a pretext for domestic repression against pro-democratic forces and to bind the government to its loyal constituency.[13] The United States attributes the worsening of relations to the 1979–81 Iran hostage crisis,[1] Iran’s repeated human rights abuses since the Islamic Revolution, different restrictions on using spy methods on democratic revolutions by the US, its anti-Western ideology and its nuclear program.[14][15]

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        We are going to ignore that the 1953 coup never happened?

        https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

        According to Stephen Kinzer, author of the book All the Shah’s Men, Roosevelt quickly seized control of the Iranian press by buying them off with bribes and circulating anti-Mossadegh propaganda. He recruited allies among the Islamic clergy, and he convinced the shah that Mossadegh was a threat.

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          The coup explains the current form of government, not why the government hates west, a west that is broader than just US

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            The west didn’t abandon the idea of controlling Iran again for it’s oils and for Israel to have free reign in controlling all Palestine and keep expending it’s illegal settlements. I am all for a regime change but without foreign intervention for geopolitics reasons .

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              Again, you’re doing something called US defaultism. The west is not in agreement about Palestine for example. Western Europe is quite obviously against everything that’s currently happening. Neither did other parts of the west planned to control Iran’s oil. I’ll have to remind you that the initial topic/argument was why Iran/West are on bad terms, not Iran and US.

              For me, a European, my hate towards them comes from their continious support towards Russia who’s invading checks notes Europe.

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                Again, the UK (MI6 on behalf of British Petroleum) were one of the key players in carrying out the coup against Mosaddegh and despite the whole Brexit thing the UK is still very much part of Europe.

                Western Europe is quite obviously against everything that’s currently happening.

                Also this^ is obviously nonsensical when we’re commenting under a post about how the major European powers are 100% backing Israel and condemning Iran in an escalation that was started by Israel - which part of this looks to you like Europe is against what’s happening?

                As for the alliance between Iran and Russia - yeah it sucks - I’d much rather them be aligned with us but I can’t blame them when they’ve been historically exploited by the west so they turn to the enemy of my enemy as their friend.

                Maybe if western proxy states (Israel) were to stop bombing them under the pretext of Iran being months away from nuclear weapons for the past 30 years it would be possible to have more civil relations and be less aligned with Russia.

                Now you may think it’s too late for that - which I understand - but then you must also recognize that at that point you’re calling for the military annihilation of either side - which is an easy position to hold when you’re on the side with all the nukes…

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                  which part of this looks to you like Europe is against what’s happening?

                  You misunderstood. I said Europe does not agree with what is happening in Palestine, not Iran. Different scenarios. There is no genocide in Iran. Everyone’s in agreement about the fact that Iran should not have nukes. Not everyone is in agreement whether there should be war about it. Currently it’s hardly a war.

                  but then you must also recognize that at that point you’re calling for the military annihilation of either side - which is an easy position to hold when you’re on the side with all the nukes…

                  Blowing up nuclear sites and some scientists in no way equals to annihilation of a state my dude. Stop overreaching.

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                    Europe has the obligation to stop any type of rrlation with a genocidal state comitting a genocide in gaza. Europe pretend to disagree with what ia happening in palestine

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                    Fair, the whole point of attacking Iran was because of Europe having a diverging stance on Palestine than Israel so we agree on that - but now that Israel has bombed Iran - all of Europe is rallying behind them and the genocide in Gaza has fallen to the wayside.

                    Obviously I’m not saying that killing civilians (both scientists and casualties caught in the cross-fire on either side) is equivalent to the annihilation of a state. I’m saying that by manufacturing consent for the “war on terror” the G7 is exposing itself as the unfair political partner it has always been which only fuels more resentment on the side of BRICS, which will only further escalate the conflict until another full out war erupts (like what’s happening in Ukraine)

                    So I’m arguing that we should discourage unprovoked attacks by allies of the G7 on the grounds that those are unproductive to peacekeeping.

                    And if you’re claiming that “Everyone’s in agreement about the fact that Iran should not have nukes.” but “Blowing up nuclear sites and some scientists” is “hardly a war” - then you’re either saying BRICS can do the same and should expect no repercussions or you’re saying that they should expect repercussions and therefore attacks and escalations against the G7 are justified as well.

                    I feel we may not be understanding each other so I’ll present my argument and you present yours?

                    My point is: The G7’s hypocritical application of international law and use of violence and coercion to maintain dominance is exactly what drives countries to join BRICS as an alternative, making Western actions counterproductive to their own stated goals of democracy, peace and stability - which results in further conflict and loss of life across the globe.