• MetalMachine@feddit.nl
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    Meanwhile, the nazi IDF can come and go and take a break from genocide in the US and the rest of the these European countries

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      I wonder what the term is for anti-palestinian? The equivalent to anti-Semite but for Muslims I guess? Just Islamophobia? That doesn’t have a good ring to it. We need a good term to use that Palestinians can play the racist card with for the next 100 years like Israel does.

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        Good question. It’s a venn diagram of Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, and anti-Palestinian hate.

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        Whatever it is, the only way to win this battle is for people to start using that new word to call out people who are quite obviously hateful. With enough use of the word over the years, it will have the same shameful effect as what they have done with the word the other side uses

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    I hope the entire world’s eyes are by this point open to the hypocrisy of the West. Kneecap and Bob Vylan being labeled outrageous or on trial for terrorism for… words, while weapons shipments continue to flow to the IDF, Netanyahu (with an arrest warrant for war crimes) flies through EU airspace unhindered, and the bombing of civilians in Gaza generates less news than a chant at a concert. Absolutely disgusting.

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      Disgust and rage doesn’t come close to expressing my emotions.

      This is the capitalist hydra they created- money equals morality. How can we be evil if we’re making so much money selling weapons to a genocidal terrorist state? What was that, you don’t like it? Sssh, if you hurt our cash cow we will hurt YOU.

      Worshipping the golden fucking calf.

      Capitalism is a form of government where instead of citizens having one vote each, they have one vote per dollar they own. It’s a cult, and it’s a fucking cancer, and it will kill us all if we don’t stop it.

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        Oh, don’t discount the Racism.

        People aren’t being investigated by police for criticizing Russia.

        If it was only about money, they wouldn’t have reacted as they did to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine given all the money many were making from Russian fossil fuels and mineral wealth.

        The big difference in the reaction to Russia’s Genocide in Ukraine and to Israel’s Genocide in Gaza (which is way worse both in numbers and in how many of the civilians being murdered are small children) is that in Ukraine the victims are Whites as are the aggressors whilst in Gaza the victims are (brown) Muslims whilst the aggressors are Whites.

        At least amongst the power elites, especially in places like the US, UK and Germany, White Colonialism isn’t just this old 19th century practice we fortunatelly left behind, rather it’s a way of viewing the world which very much alive and widelly held.

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          Racism is an inherent component of capitalism, Especially it’s late stage of decline, fascism where those in power obfuscate their culpability by redirecting the ire of the masses towards scapegoated social classes

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    No I’m sure that’s an absolutely wonderful use of their time. Maybe they can post about this on Twitter rather than the 3g of weed that they seized.

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    To be honest I had never heard of Bob Vylan before, so the people screaming they should be banned (so they dont become known?) reached the opposite effect, at least for me personally.

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    We need to start banding together and voting these pro-genocide politicians out of office.

    Oh, AIPAC supports you? Enjoy getting primaried. Watching their heads spin when Cuomo lost to Mamdani was fucking gold.

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    led crowds in chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF” [The BBC said:] “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable … " [Starmer said:] “appalling hate speech.”

    “Free Palestine” is not antisemitic. Criticism of a nation state’s armed forces is not antisemitic. Especially when those armed forces are objectively committing genocide.

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      I’m sure “death to the IDF” is what some people have issues with rather than “free Palestine”

      chanting death for any group idendity en mass will always be controversial, even if it’s for Nazis

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        No, chanting death to Nazi was never controversial. It wouldn’t even be controversial if it was death to the Russian army .

        You are denying Palestinians right to self defense by opposing the chant death to the IDF

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          You’re bubbled, it’s undeniably controversial to chant death to people, especially groups of people. By debating it you agree it’s controversial, do you even know what the word means?

          Please don’t try to say I’m denying Palestinans the right to self defence because I don’t want to chant death to their oppressors. My friend, that’s a wild statement and you should pipe down

          Next you’re going to tell me I’m pro Russia because I don’t agree Putin should be assassinated

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        I guarantee you can find droves of zionists that say “free Palestine” implies the destruction of Israel and is therefore antisemitic.

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          Anyone who thinks those statements are one and the same is delusional and not even worth talking to.

          If someone can prove to me they’re not a rational human they lose my interest

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      I think the issue is the other chant, now I’m not saying that is anti-Semitic at all as that’s insane.

      For what it’s worth fuck the IDF, terrorist assholes.

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      Pfft…

      Only the rational and reasonable buy into what you’re putting forth here…

      Which completely and entirely excludes any/all MAGAts and other assorted fascist/authoritarian types that appear to be consuming gov’ts globally.

      🤡 🖕 💩 💩

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        Also excludes quite a lot of Liberals - a lot of people who’ve been brainwashed over the last 3 decades with the fake “leftwing” idea that “it’s not Racism if your descriminiatory acts and judgements favor those of specific races rather than disfavor those of specific races”, are having trouble processing the situation were the self-proclaimed representatives of an ethnic group they’ve learned to see as “victims” and “good people” are actually committing an extreme Genocide along ethnic lines.

        I mean, many have change to the Humanist position that “people should be judged and treated based solely on what they support and they do, independently of race”, by many if not most are still ridding the whole “the entire race are victims” idea and de facto supporting Genocide by attacking the critics of the depraved genocidal actions of the self-proclaimed representatives of the “victim race”.

        This shit would have never reached this level if it was only the openly Fascist being Racist.

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          Of course, it is both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats, who are causing a problem in the UK government.

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    When did IDF become a protected minority group? Is saying “Death to Nazis” not allowed in the UK?

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      I’ll get downvoted for this but what im about to say is an undeniable fact. Chanting death for anyone is inciting violence and murder, UK governments and police can’t be allowing that, especially as there is no death penalty.

      Yes I know, the IDF incite violence and murder, but does that make it OK to do in UK?

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        Back of a T-shirt with a sketch of a running person. It reads "Bob Vylan Running Club" with bubbles that say "Run for peace" and "And from police"

        Fuck that is an awesome design.

        Shame it (a) appears to be cotton (not the material I want to be running in), and (b) is sold out.

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          It’s all sold out. Everyone wants a piece of Bob Vylan. I hope they do “death to the idf” t shirts.

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            Running shirts tend to be made of nylon or polyester. Unfortunately I tend to hang on to my clothes a very long time so all the tags are worn away and I can’t check, but I’m pretty sure all my running shirts are one of those.

            Cotton is particularly bad because it chafes and it hangs on to sweat rather than wicking it away.

            Of natural fibres, you probably want wool. I’ve particularly heard good things about merino wool. But avoid cotton for running.

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          Not to mention that they were happily selling Kanye West’s Nazi clothing until the press and social media called them out for it.